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Scarlet theory

DCC Erickson

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No fixed Scarlet.

Why bother?

Ship a 2/3 with one standard mount ( I don't know, PL, RED?), in a kit for the entry level, include a zoom. Eliminate a manufacturing line (less overhead) and a non-upgradeable lens, customer can swap mount out if they want.

Don't know/use this technology (still in AVCHD land) but the fixed product doesn't make sense in light of the modularity they're building.
 
The fixed will be a great tool that many people will use as B-Cams/Crash cams/Effects. Fly-by-wire. People will buy multiples of this cam to have around...for the price. There is a huge market for this is the Indies, corporate and other elements of the industry. I think they will sell more fixed scarlets than any other...and they probably need it to help the program.
 
The reason is that the fixed Scarlet allows for the additional 'fly by wire' capabilities that an external lens cannot provide for the $500 price increase between the fixed and cinema 2/3" models. The fixed houses part of the lens inside the body, making it easier for the camera to control the lens without having to build extensive data ports onto both mounts that would drive the cost of the camera up dramatically.
 
They will keep the fixed. It's what will allow them to sell their stuff so cheap. These suckers are going to flood the market and its going to be awesome. =]

I honestly cannot wait to get my hands on a Fixed (esp. with Jim's most recent post about the glass, you know that the lens you are getting on it is insanely awesome quality).
 
So we're probably not looking at a big price increase on the fixed - that would defeat the purpose of the product (affordable RAW/RED). I guess it makes a great calling card product for RED, to introduce them to the lower end customers who will presumably begin ascending the brain ladder to ever bigger file sizes, as well as the big guns who want something different and configurable - the industry will probably send them around with chocolates as the cine-swag to have for Christmas (or the Oscars). Cool.
 
DCC Erickson said:
No fixed Scarlet.

Don't know/use this technology (still in AVCHD land) but the fixed product doesn't make sense in light of the modularity they're building.
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Sure it does. How many people are regularly switching the lens on their 2/3 cam right now? Modularity in that case typically means buying a lens that's right for your line of work and keeping it on the body until you retire it.

Jim's already said the fixed lens is worth 2x what they're charging for the camera. I'd believe him.
 
I'm curious if the fixed will have capability to bolt on all the other modules - is only the lens+brain glued together? Or will the entire camera be a solid block? I'll be watching closely...
 
Aaron Kondziela said:
I'm curious if the fixed will have capability to bolt on all the other modules - is only the lens+brain glued together? Or will the entire camera be a solid block? I'll be watching closely...
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Yeah, as David said, why wouldn't it be? its just another brain with something stuck on the front... you'll be able to remove the REDMote, chuck on an adapter and throw on all modules galore
 
Being at present a HXP171 panasonic user the fixed 2/3 scarlet will be the first red camera l buy then maybe the S35, and l can't wait to see the true spec and lens quality of the fixed.

The point l think is that the fixed 2/3 will wipe the floor against the EX1 EX3 and HXP171. I produce corporate pieces mainly for the travel industry abroad and need to travel light (20KG hold luggage 10-15KG cabin luggage) and film fast. lm not making movies so DOF is not so critical but image quality is. Having shot on and owned an EX1 EX3 and HPX171 the quality is good but not brilliant, and Sonys compression is to low, a 4.2.0 color space isn't good, though Panasonics is much better at 4.2.2.

The point is the Scarlet will be an industry changer for the lower end professional market, giving a price point to image quality unheard of until this point in time.

Any one who hasn't grasped that will be in for a shock.
 
Having been on Reduser daily for the past 8 months and trying to get myself ready and understanding all the different ways filming on video is to filming on Red/Scarlet it will be a catch your breath moment when l push the record button for the first time.

l take my hat off to Jim Jannard and Team Red for his foresight and creative vision and the way he has personally changed the industry forever in three years. lm a believer in putting your money where your mouth is and mine shall be with Red.

So here's to the 30th October to see and wait with baited breath.

Andrew

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Jim said just a few days ago that the lens on the fixed Scarlet 'should be worth twice what the camera costs' - yeah, sounds a lot like they're cutting it, doesn't it :rolleyes5:...
 
Wow you guys really read a lot into what Jim said about the fixed lens. Someone asked if he could say anything about it, and Jim's response was not that it was worth twice what they were charging for the body, but that it will cost twice what the body costs. Since the lens is obviously included as party of the package, I took this as a facetious post on his part, a kind of "Stop asking all these same ol' questions and stop worrying about things and just wait til the 30th."
 
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