Scarlet renters co-op, NYC... just an idea!

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

Dunno if this is the right forum, but I had a thought (always dangerous!)

Like many, I plan to rent my Scarlet and other kit out from time to time when I'm not using it.

Like many, I own just the one camera.

This presents a problem, because any professional rental pretty much has to include some kind of backup plan if the camera goes titsup on the shoot. Also, at times people are going to want some piece of gear you don't have.

There are going to be a fair number of Scarlet owners in the NYC area in the same position as me, I'm betting. Anyone feel there's any mileage in us getting together and forming some kind of loose co-op setup, where we pool resources to an extent, act as each others backup, and share lists of gear, to make sourcing stuff easier? I dunno if this has been tried elsewhere, whether it works etc.

Just a thought...

Mike

 

[Ryan De Franco]

Mike, that's an excellent idea. Nothing formal, just a list of friendly redusers willing to help each other out. Gives more options to our clients--so you need three cameras?--and a safety net for the worst case. If something happens, everyone in the group agrees to rent their Scarlet at 50% standard to the party who needs to give his client a replacement camera.

The plus side to membership would be, say, a 40% discount on rentals within the group--professional courtesy. We only need 4-5 other folks to make this work beautifully. Timur, where are you...

This also makes finding requested gear a bit easier--client wants an MB-20, you've got an MB-14; you check the google doc for all those who have one and reach out.

 

[Darren Levine]

collaboration between renters is great. i know a small rental house and they've sub-rented my cameras on several occasions when they were out.

 

[axel ebermann]

It all sounds very logical and easy but the problem is that if you do not have a full
time person dedicated to organizing and policing everything and coordinating the logistics your equipment will
end up in shreds.

Dunno if this is the right forum, but I had a thought (always dangerous!)

Like many, I plan to rent my Scarlet and other kit out from time to time when I'm not using it.

Like many, I own just the one camera.

This presents a problem, because any professional rental pretty much has to include some kind of backup plan if the camera goes titsup on the shoot. Also, at times people are going to want some piece of gear you don't have.

There are going to be a fair number of Scarlet owners in the NYC area in the same position as me, I'm betting. Anyone feel there's any mileage in us getting together and forming some kind of loose co-op setup, where we pool resources to an extent, act as each others backup, and share lists of gear, to make sourcing stuff easier? I dunno if this has been tried elsewhere, whether it works etc.

Just a thought...

Mike

 

[TonySegreto]

I think if everyone has an equipment list, it would be great. I'd much rather sub rent from an owner-operator vs. a rental house for camera gear. Currently I'm looking to rent a TiCanon mount for this Thursday. Anyone have one available? PM me.

Here is my equipment list if you guys need anything: http://www.vigilantehd.com/red-scarlet-rentals-nyc/

 

[John Galeano]

I think if everyone has an equipment list, it would be great. I'd much rather sub rent from an owner-operator vs. a rental house for camera gear. Currently I'm looking to rent a TiCanon mount for this Thursday. Anyone have one available? PM me.

Here is my equipment list if you guys need anything: http://www.vigilantehd.com/red-scarlet-rentals-nyc/

Hey are you located in Long Island? I see you have a 516 number. I don't have mine just yet, But when it comes in maybe we can help each other out.

 

[TonySegreto]

Hey are you located in Long Island? I see you have a 516 number. I don't have mine just yet, But when it comes in maybe we can help each other out.

Yes I am, born and raised! Though probably within the year I'll be moving to the boroughs, as commuting is getting a bit ridiculous. Let me know when ya get yer cam in!

 

[John Galeano]

Yes I am, born and raised! Though probably within the year I'll be moving to the boroughs, as commuting is getting a bit ridiculous. Let me know when ya get yer cam in!

Yep born and raised in L.I also. I hear ya on the commute, I did it for three years and it sucked lol. Shouldn't be much longer before I get my cam in. I'll deff.. let u know as soon as I do.

 

[Jon Carr]

I'm willing to rent out anything thats needed in the NYC area. Still waiting on a lot of stuff, but if anyone needs a spare Brain, REDmote, or REDmag station. Feel free to contact me.

 

[Jack Shanahan]

This is a great idea!

Scarlet X + 1.8'' SSD Module
Al Canon mount
Ti PL mount
DSMC Side Handle
1.8" SSD 64GB (3)
Travel Charger (3)
Redvolt (6)
Outrigger Handle
Sliding Top Handle
100mm Swat Rail
Bomb EVF
5'' Touch Monitor
7'' LCD-EVF Cable
Red Arm 5"
Quickback
QR Battery Back
Anton Bauer (QRC-EPIC)
Easy Top X
Easy Riser
Lightweight 15mm Bracket
GP-2LAJ - Two Channel Charger
XP-L90A Pro-X Camera Battery Pack (2)
Custom 1510 Pelican Case by Innersp.

STILL WAITING ON:
Module Adapter
I/O Module
Sidehandle

Perhaps we should have a google doc going or something?

 

[TonySegreto]

Something like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq-Agi0OzmnJdFBuZmR5RDkzU3lXVGdpVVFLU3ludGc

 

[Michael Moreno]

FiremanMike ; )

I was wanting to post something similar before Epic and Scarlet X shipped
I believe it would be great for Epic and Scarlet owners to utilize their cameras as a buddy B cam system
This way Epic owners would have backup B Scarlets and Scarlet owners can utilize high frame rate B cam Epics
I thought of posting a way for this to become realized but never had the time to run it by some wiser redusers first..
Hope something can be setup, it would be a great possible advantage through community
I have a Scarlet-X and live in Los Angeles California

 

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

There's another thread on this now:

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?71445-List-of-NYC-Scarlets - just putting this here for the link in case people find one but not the other.


For the record, my list:

Cameras & accessories:


- Scarlet AL Canon mount
- Side Handle
- Touch 5.0" LCD
- REDmote (due to arrive any day now!)
- 4x REDvolts
- 1x 64GB SSD (more coming soon)
- Travel Charger
- 2B-to-1B power adapter cable
- 3x RED Bricks
- RED Charger for bricks
- RED Cradle
- RED Brick battery belt clip (modified)
- RED ONE base production pack
- Cinema Oxide base plate EPIC/Scarlet (allows RED ONE base production pack to be mounted)
- Cinema Oxide top mount adapter (puts RED ONE top mounts on EPIC/Scarlet)
- 19mm rails in various denominations, steel and carbon
- Letus-type FF
- RED Pro Matte Box (with upper flag only)
- 77mm adapter to use matte box on DSLR lenses
- Schneider base filter set (NDs plus hot mirror)


- Miller Arrow 50 head / CF sticks
- Long Valley Seven Jib Compact XL (with counterweights in various denominations)


- Audio Technica BP4029 stereo shotgun with mount, foam, dead cat, cables for RED ONE & EPIC/Scarlet, and phantom power supply for EPIC/Scarlet


(not owned by me but *may* be available on request until owner trades in - late stage 3 camera)
- RED ONE M sensor


RED ONE accessories:


- 3x RED Drives
- 6x 8GB CF cards
- RED Nikon F mount (Underdahl modified with iris control)
- 5.6" RED LCD
- RED EVF (original, DOES work on Scarlet)




Glass:


- Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6


- Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8 G
- Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 G VR II
- Nikon TC-17E II (1.7x multiplier)


- Nikon F - Canon EOS mount adapter for the above, with iris control


- RED Pro Zoom 18-85mm T/2.9
- Cooke Super Cine Varotal 25-250mm f/2.8


- PL - Canon EOS mount adapter for the above


- Scarlet/EPIC Canon FD mount
- various Canon FD primes
(the above two items will NOT be available until Optitek solve mount shorting issues and Jarred approves!)



Mike

 

[TonySegreto]

Good call buddy. BTW, how do you like your Miller sticks? I was thinking of picking up an Arrow 25.

 

[Felipe Leite]

Yeah, very good call! I will be in NYC in March. I will not list the stuff just now but basically I will be going with oconnor for FF and Mattebox, leica glass, pl and canon mounts, miller arrow 25 or 55, scout steadicam and some arri fresnels. No PL glass, too expensive for me right now.
Cheers.

 

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

Tony, the Millers are excellent. Steve Gibby gives them a very strong endorsement and as far as I know they aren't paying him

I would second that. If you're on a tight budget, look for used Arrow 50 - useful saving on new Arrow 55 (which is cheap already) if you get a good one. Rent mine and tell me what you think

Can't comment on the 25 as I've never laid hands on one, but I will be looking shortly for an ultra-lightweight set of sticks for travel/backpack... I'll start a new thread on that one.

Mike

 

[Peter Staubs]

millers, I'm looking at them too, I like the sprinter system, looks very quick and easy.

 

[Nick Timmons]

I have an Arrow 55 with two-stage carbon sticks, and I'm extremely impressed. Abel Cine here in NYC is pushing them hard, considering OConnor just can't deliver on anything approaching a reasonable schedule. I was looking at the new 1030D with 30L sticks, but the Miller seems to be as good, and is considerably cheaper from Abel.

Also, this NYC co-op idea intrigues me, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. I'm in Bushwick, Brooklyn. Some of my notable gear:

Epic-M with Ti PL and Canon mount
Arri MB-20 II
OConnor CFF-1 follow focus
Bartech wireless FF
Flanders Scientific LM-2461W 10-bit 4:4:4 color-critical monitor (does DCI P3!)
Steadicam Zephyr with HD monitor
Matthews DC Slider

lots of other stuff...


-Nick Timmons
Epic-M #1290 'Ruth'
Brooklyn, NY

 

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

I have an Arrow 55 with two-stage carbon sticks, and I'm extremely impressed. Abel Cine here in NYC is pushing them hard, considering OConnor just can't deliver on anything approaching a reasonable schedule. I was looking at the new 1030D with 30L sticks, but the Miller seems to be as good, and is considerably cheaper from Abel.

Also, this NYC co-op idea intrigues me, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. I'm in Bushwick, Brooklyn. Some of my notable gear:

Epic-M with Ti PL and Canon mount
Arri MB-20 II
OConnor CFF-1 follow focus
Bartech wireless FF
Flanders Scientific LM-2461W 10-bit 4:4:4 color-critical monitor (does DCI P3!)
Steadicam Zephyr with HD monitor
Matthews DC Slider

lots of other stuff...


-Nick Timmons
Epic-M #1290 'Ruth'
Brooklyn, NY

Welcome to the club Nick. I might want to talk to you about your Steadicam at some point... I've never so much as laid hands on one, and I learn by playing...

Mike

 

[Nikhil Kamkolkar]

My EPIC X should be coming along soon. I won't be able to use it on a project right away - no PL glass, so could possibly rent out the body (perhaps a second body to a production) in the meantime. The only thing I'm unsure about is what kind of insurance is needed for doing something like that. The fact that a production has insurance is one thing, but assume we need to have something on our end as well. There are other insurance threads, so don't want to derail this one, but a DM would be much appreciated! Thanks.