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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet preview...

Hmmmm. I really thought it was going to be 2/3" but maybe changing to s35 was the "lens fix" mentioned 4 months ago. I hope that's the case. Clears way for epic-s to go ff35 along with epic. ;)
 
Jannard said:
If you were expecting 3K for $3K... this is bad news.

Jim
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Not the 1080p version you were talking about Jim ;) .

Jannard said:
No one will be disappointed if they ignore all previous conceived notions.

Jim
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(Around $10k version suggestion)

Jannard said:
Good news is that you won't find an option like this.

Jim
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That's ok, we were planning on the 5-6 figure anyway, if it doesn't look like the pictures of the gx1 floating around and has 4k I would be happy at that.

Jim, could you please reveal to us What is happening with full35 frame and on the cheap end? There has been so many changes it is hard to keep up with what is current, as in the previously announced that is still current.

Thanks.
 
Buying spree though is at $4k 16mm or 4/3rds.
 
Eston Diaz said:
Enough, tell us no more!

I'm really really really trying not to go here and check, and yet.... I still do! :banghead:
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Eston, I might have found your problem in that, it might be that brick wall in that amicon that keeps hitting you. :)
 
Calibration time

Calibration time

So it begins... =)

I'm definitely in the price sensitive crowd, so this might make or break. We'll see... exciting times.

I find it somewhat strange that Jim references the 3k3k price. Surely, everyone's reference is Ted's 2/3" 3k Scarlet Fixed with 5" monitor and side handle for 6k. That price never added up, but still... Some of us maybe nurtured the hope that you'd make a break even product to mess up (to put it nicely) the market and gain market share.

But with this, I also think it's time to put smirky remarks about Canon's offerings forever on halt: it should be obvious that you can't get it all for $2.500.

Canon is going to release an alternative to Epic on the 3rd, but costing around $15.000? It won't come close to Epic, but it also not costs as much.

If RED releases Ted's Scarlet on the 3rd, it won't be in competition with Canon's camera. It will stand alone as a very high end 2/3" offering.

If RED REALLY does respond with a bigger sensor Scarlet, it will kind of blow my mind, but I find it so hard to believe thinking about all that has gone into, and been shown of the 2/3", including Jarred's 120 fps internal test. But if, THAT would be a truly disruptive release.

But please, don't go knocking the alternatives, without taking price into account. Price is, after all, the framework that limits, or sets free, all other options.
 
Sobering recap for the many

Sobering recap for the many

This from middle of June THIS year.

Do you REALLY think that Scarlet has been re-visioned and redesigned so completely within a couple of months? Especially since RED on several occasions has stated that Scarlet needs to be pretty ready to go on day one?

Jon Sagud said:
Originally Posted by Jon Sagud
June '11 Update: 6/15/11

Well, it has been brought to my attention (thanks, Wayne) that the Scarlet FAQs were getting a little long in the tooth and since things change rather rapidly around here at RED, it was time to have a new update, one that reflected the significant changes in Scarlet's mission and to answer some of the more pressing questions. As of June of 2011, there are two questions that I still cannot answer directly; they happen to be the two most often asked questions: when and how much? They are the toughest questions because Scarlet is not like any other camera we, or anybody else, has ever built. More than any other parameter, it has to be perfect out of the gate. No beta period for Scarlet. Ready for prime time out of the box. So, when and how much we're not going to say until all the "t's" have been crossed and all the "i's" dotted. It's really just that simple. Besides, it drives our competitors crazy I can say, as I did at NAB, that we are close. I am shooting my Scarlet everyday and loving it. Everyone that has had their hands on one has loved it. Hang in there. It will be worth the wait.

In its development, from the very beginning, the team has been torn as to what Scarlet should be. Consumer? Prosumer? Professional? Pocket Professional? We should have known that, with the contributions from the team members who are shooters, Scarlet would always have been a professional camera. RED really doesn't know how to do it any other way. It became a wish list camera for all of us and everything that went into EPIC, we all wanted in our Scarlets. We wanted the features and we wanted the robustness. The net result is that Scarlet is an EPIC with a professional 2/3" sensor. It is what defines a Scarlet and EPIC. A 2/3" broadcast format 3K sensor = Scarlet. An APS-C S35 format 5K sensor = EPIC. The Gizmodos and Engadgets of the world can breathe a sigh of relief. The RED family naming scheme finally makes sense. The Scarlets originally planned to have a larger sensor will be renamed EPIC-S, identical in every way to an EPIC-X, but with a frame and data rate similar to a RED ONE. When Monstro arrives in the form of a 6K 24MB sensor, it will find a home in an EPIC body. While an S35 and FF35 sensor-based Scarlet was originally on the table, these cameras will still be brought out. The only difference is the naming convention. They will be EPICs.


QUESTIONS

How many Scarlets are there?

Scarlet, in the immediate future, is a family of one. Scarlet, as it was originally conceived, was to be the highest quality, all in one, "camcorder-like" motion capture product on the market, at any price. Competing with 2/3" video cameras in the multiple tens of thousands of dollars, Scarlet would offer 3K resolution (2 1/2 x HD) in a lightweight, configurable and modular package. This is the path RED pursued and this will be the camera introduced first. Called Scarlet Fixed 8X Zoom, the camera everyone has waited for will employ an 8X zoom that maintains its aperture through the entire zoom range. At its wide angle setting, it will have the 35mm equivalency of a 28mm lens. Its maximum aperture is f2.4 (T2.6). Designed as a DSMC compatible product, all modular EPIC accessories are fully compatible with Scarlet, from shoulder rigs to monitors to power supplies.

How about an interchangeable lens Scarlet?

Also planned is an interchangeable mount Scarlet (tentatively named Scarlet Removable), employing the same 2/3" sensor and driven by the need for use with the higher magnification lenses used on 35mm still cameras, such as Canon and Nikon, as well as a set of purpose-built RED Mini-Primes. Additional mounts, such as a standard PL mount, will be available, but Scarlet Removable will ship with a RED Mini-PL mount, without an option for exchanging the mount at purchase. Scarlet Removable will follow Scarlet Fixed in product availability.

What are Scarlet's specs?

Scarlet is an all metal bodied camera with a built-in 8X zoom lens. This lens is a part of the architectural design of the camera and non removable, employing a non-rotating standard 77mm front thread (for filters). Scarlet employs a 2/3" sensor, considered to be the industry standard for ENG and broadcast video, offering depth of field control more selective than that of a 1/2" or 1/3" sensor, but still much easier to focus than a larger sensor. Scarlet is a 3K camera, offering 2 and a half times more resolution than an HD video camera and employing a 5MP 3072 x 1620 sensor. Scarlet shoots in raw mode, like RED ONE and EPIC and subscribes to all of the same acquisition and post tools as any RED camera. Because it has been configured as a DSMC, Scarlet can be used in either still or motion modes, offering the same AF control and features as its big brother EPIC. Also, like EPIC, Scarlet will be fully HDRx enabled and offer extraordinary dynamic range, humbling anything that it will compete with.

What comes in the package?

Our interest from the beginning has been to offer a camera that works out of the box. This means that you need a Scarlet Brain (body and 8X lens), a monitor, a media recording module, a power supply and a charging system. The 5" Touch-Screen RED PRO LCD can certainly control all camera functions, as can a Right Handle Grip, as can a REDMOTE™. Scarlet could be configured with a CF module or an SSD module. Which solution(s) will come with Scarlet are yet to be determined and are driven by price and demand. Likely, we will provide a host of options for the Scarlet customer, to configure the camera exactly as the customer wishes. This is the promise and the benefit of a modular camera system. Currently, RED is leaning towards the SSD Module being standard, allowing the customer to use the faster, higher performance media or CF with the aid of an adaptor sleeve.

What is meant by "A Modular Camera"?

Very simply, the philosophy is reflected by our credo, "Obsolescence Obsolete". Design a camera that can be broken down into individual components, so that parts and pieces can be changed out without having to dispose of the whole camera. Add a RED DSMC I/O Module for XLR inputs, Timecode, Sync, HD-SDI, Gigabit Ethernet and data ports, a RED DSMC Battery Module for uninterrupted recording, a REDhandle for ergonomics and power, a RED Shoulder mount, a BombEVF or LCD (every RED finder works with Scarlet). RED DSMC Modular system shares accessories between Scarlet and Epic, which will also be compatible with the majority of RED One accessories. RED development will continue to advance the capabilities of Scarlet, focusing on new and revolutionary technologies. Our commitment to 3D is huge and one of the driving forces behind Scarlet's and EPIC's design. Never again will you have to sell your camera to get the latest capabilities or features. At the heart of the Scarlet program's modularity is the ability to switch out any component part for upgraded, improved or optional future advance.

I've been waiting for this camera for 3 years. Is this really ever going to happen?

Ugh. Believe me when I tell you that operating a camera company in a fish bowl is either the gutsiest move in the world or the brainchild of a mad man or both. It certainly is not for the faint of heart. My hair is grayer (what's left of it) and nothing on me works quite as well as it used to and I'm not even in the pressure seat! The amount of work put in by the most dedicated team in the land, being led by a man who is literally tireless in his passion to succeed, is the stuff of legend. No one, no company, no group could ever achieve what RED has achieved over the last 4 years. Yes, it's going to happen. Scarlet will change everything. RAW 3K motion capture at an affordable price. There is one sitting on my desk. There will be one on yours soon.

What is Scarlet's biggest hurdle?

Scarlet's biggest hurdle has, ironically, been us. We have changed it a hundred times since original concept, constantly wanting it to be better, to be able to crush anything that it might compete with. Effectively, Scarlet, today is a 2/3" EPIC with a built in 8X zoom lens. Our biggest challenge in bringing Scarlet to market is parts supply. Our source for lens components was drastically compromised by the tragedy in Japan, so much so that it stopped Scarlet in its tracks. We are pursuing every option and exploring every alternative in an effort to bring Scarlet to market.

Can I pre-order a Scarlet?

As of June '11, we have not yet established a pre-order process for Scarlet. It is our desire to build enough cameras that reservations will not be necessary, that when introduced, there will be plenty to go around. We'll keep you informed as we get closer, but for now; no pre-orders. The immediate plan is to sell Scarlet direct.

I'm a writer/editor/contributor for ______ Magazine/Website/Webcast/Podcast/Radio and I'd love to test a Scarlet for an article/program I'm doing. Can I get one?

Sorry, they're all taken and being road tested right now. Drop me a line at jon@red.com and I'll put you on my contact list.

I'm a famous/not-so-famous/film student/budding photographer that is going to make RED famous with my next project. All I need is some free Scarlets/sponsorship/money/support/free Scarlets to test/use and put RED on the map.

Sorry, no dice. Not enough to go around, not enough to meet demand. Not ready for prime time.
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Exiting news! I only wish you have alot of those in stock.
 
Speaking of CostCo...

The math works out just right.. @ 5 hours each, 1 24 pack should just about keep each of us awake till the event, and then for about another 15 hours after it starts:

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"Canon is going to release an alternative to Epic on the 3rd"

I keep hearing this, but who knows this for sure? Nobody knows if Canon will release a camera, a hdslr, or a tooth stick written "hollywood" on it. Nobody knows.
 
As long as a full working set can reach my doormat for $14.000 incl import tax and stuff (€10.000) I consider it good news.
 
Thanks Jim for easing in the price news gently for us who got ahead of ourselves and were dreaming of an amazing camera with a $3k price tag. I will not be able to afford the scarlet, but I will always remain a RED supporter, 100%
I'm still very excited about what the scarlet will bring, even if I cannot afford it.

When I'll be shooting with my canon I'll be dreaming of scarlet, and when my work with my canon can raise enough money for my dream, I'll be shooting with a scarlet. :)
I'll be painting my canon RED :)

Blessings to Team RED!
 
Laco Gaal said:
"Canon is going to release an alternative to Epic on the 3rd"

I keep hearing this, but who knows this for sure? Nobody knows if Canon will release a camera, a hdslr, or a tooth stick written "hollywood" on it. Nobody knows.
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Sure we do, everybody knows.

Just for the record, I didn't mean that as in Epic's equivalent.

I just meant as in: large sensor, high resolution, interchangeable and good connectivity.

It won't come close to Epic, but it will also not cost as much. Perhaps about half price. For all out quality it's always going to be Epic, but many times things aren't black and white. I'm sure there is a market in the compromise zone.
 
It's simple for me, whatever the final specs are, i already know there will be nothing else that comes even close and there is no other company that deserves my support. I have my budget, i hope its enough to be a day1-customer, if not i'll save more and buy as soon as i can.

I'm a hobbyist, thank you RED for giving me the chance to own a real PRO camera. This is a huge gift.
 
AndreeMarkefors said:
Sure we do, everybody knows.

Just for the record, I didn't mean that as in Epic's equivalent.

I just meant as in: large sensor, high resolution, interchangeable and good connectivity.

It won't come close to Epic, but it will also not cost as much. Perhaps about half price. For all out quality it's always going to be Epic, but many times things aren't black and white. I'm sure there is a market in the compromise zone.
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I understand, but what if this isn't a case?
Fact: we know _nothing_ about the Canon event, but despite of this everybody talks about it as "canon's best shot for a camera"
 
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