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Scarlet and Sound?

Timothy Carr

Timothy Carr

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I thought i would find HUNDREDS of tests, after all anyone that has ever bought one has put up a test video somewhere. But i cannot find one where the sound goes directly into the camera? Am i missing somthing? I mean, sure i will buy a H4n and put the sound throught that, but i really wanted to know what it sounded like with the on-board tools. I know it doesnt have a built in microphone, so lets say we hooked up a boom via a xlr to 3.5mm jack adapter. What would it sound like? How noise free is it? What sort of tools are there on the camera, and how easy are they to access (ie. levels, etc)?

If anyone can help me out that would be great!
Thanks
 
Yep, I had been shooting some interviews and recording the sound on a PreSonus FireStudio. For the last shoot, the FireStudio wasn't available and the Phantom Power build had just been released so I ran my AudioTechnica AT4053b hypercardioid and an AudioTechnica radio mic system directly into the Scarlet. Aurally I couldn't tell the difference between the Scarlet audio and the Class A preamps in the FireStudio. It's completely usable.

You might want to turn the limiter off, I find it way too aggressive in the current build.
 
Same here : 2 sennheiser recepteur, and Red cable.
I don't use anymore DR40 since Adobe Premiere is able to read image and audio.


Olivier
 
So many things are changing these days... Don't forget to try CS6 workflow directly. I don't see anymore why you should not use Red for everything kind of project


Olivier
 
One thing I figured out mid shoot is that you can go from Zoom h4n (quite cheap and popular) straight to Scarlet audio in. Just need a double male ended audio jack to go from the headphone port from the Zoom into the Scarlet. You can monitor from Scarlet's headphone jack. It's brilliant.
 
Josef Gatti said:
One thing I figured out mid shoot is that you can go from Zoom h4n (quite cheap and popular) straight to Scarlet audio in. Just need a double male ended audio jack to go from the headphone port from the Zoom into the Scarlet. You can monitor from Scarlet's headphone jack. It's brilliant.
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Nice that's a great tip. Do you have a link to a cable that you use for this, does it need to be any specific type of wiring apart from the male connections?

I have been very happy with the results of the Scarlet audio. I agree with what a few said above, definitely turn off the limiter, it really screwed me up when it was enabled a few builds back. The only issue I run into is fan noise in small quarters.

But I use the Wooden Camera A Box with great results.
 
Timothy Carr said:
I thought i would find HUNDREDS of tests, after all anyone that has ever bought one has put up a test video somewhere. But i cannot find one where the sound goes directly into the camera? Am i missing somthing? I mean, sure i will buy a H4n and put the sound throught that, but i really wanted to know what it sounded like with the on-board tools. I know it doesnt have a built in microphone, so lets say we hooked up a boom via a xlr to 3.5mm jack adapter. What would it sound like? How noise free is it? What sort of tools are there on the camera, and how easy are they to access (ie. levels, etc)?

If anyone can help me out that would be great!
Thanks
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Here's a test I did a few months ago of audio into Scarlet, via a Sound Devices Mixpre:
https://vimeo.com/35924296
 
Josef Gatti said:
One thing I figured out mid shoot is that you can go from Zoom h4n (quite cheap and popular) straight to Scarlet audio in. Just need a double male ended audio jack to go from the headphone port from the Zoom into the Scarlet. You can monitor from Scarlet's headphone jack. It's brilliant.
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Good to Know!
 
Tyler Bourns said:
Nice that's a great tip. Do you have a link to a cable that you use for this, does it need to be any specific type of wiring apart from the male connections?

I have been very happy with the results of the Scarlet audio. I agree with what a few said above, definitely turn off the limiter, it really screwed me up when it was enabled a few builds back. The only issue I run into is fan noise in small quarters.

But I use the Wooden Camera A Box with great results.
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No link sorry, it was one just lying around the house! We were desperate to get any audio working in camera and I pulled that from my TV. I regularly use it to connect laptop to TV to watch shows etc on my plasma. So nothing special to it. Just a stock 35mm cable.
 
Josef Gatti said:
No link sorry, it was one just lying around the house! We were desperate to get any audio working in camera and I pulled that from my TV. I regularly use it to connect laptop to TV to watch shows etc on my plasma. So nothing special to it. Just a stock 35mm cable.
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Thanks.
 
Dean Francis said:
Whats the best way to cable a wireless mic system straight into the Scarlet? I'm getting quite a lot of hum presently... and I'm no audio expert! Is a special balanced mono audio cable required?
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The WC A-Box seems to be what a lot of people (myself included) are using.
 
The answer to all of these questions is to just let the Mixer on your shoot handle their department. I have NEVER been asked by a producer to DP/camera operate and also be the Sound Mixer. Having done both professionally, I don't even know how it's possible. Each me takes up all my time on set. You know your producer is green when they ask you to do two full time jobs at once. Just say no!


Dean Francis said:
Whats the best way to cable a wireless mic system straight into the Scarlet? I'm getting quite a lot of hum presently... and I'm no audio expert! Is a special balanced mono audio cable required?
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Arnold F. said:
The answer to all of these questions is to just let the Mixer on your shoot handle their department. I have NEVER been asked by a producer to DP/camera operate and also be the Sound Mixer. Having done both professionally, I don't even know how it's possible. Each me takes up all my time on set. You know your producer is green when they ask you to do two full time jobs at once. Just say no!
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With all due respect, this is how you answered my other audio question. "Leave it to the sound guy" is neither an answer or in some cases an option. Many of us handle our own audio. Sometimes you can't or don't need a sound guy for whatever you are doing. We ask these questions because WE need to know the answers. Personally, I find it pretty "old hat" to only limit yourself to a specific role or responsibility. The more you know the better.
 
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