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Scarlet and anamorphic

Shane Betts

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Hey Red Team

I notice that only the Epic models list anamorphic amongst their formats yet the top of the line (FF35) Scarlet has the same size sensor as the FF35 Epic.

Am I missing something or should the Scarlet shoot anamorphic exactly the same as the Epic FF35 or is there some kind of software planned for Epic to de-anamorphize the image in the R3D's?
 
My guess is it'll be an issue of monitoring on the Scarlet - Jim's stated many times that the processing power of Scarlet will be significantly lower than that of the Epic, and I would imagine therefore the de-squeeze in camera may well not be possible.

There's nothing to stop you shooting anamorphic on the chip, handling the de-squeeze yourself in post and using external monitors that support anamorphic viewing whilst shooting though, just a little more hassle is all...
 
Jim also stated that you will have unlimited format options with Epic, whereas with Scarlet, you have a smaller feature set meaning the anamorphic mode may just be excluded from the FF Scarlet.
 
I can't see how anamorphic can be 'disabled', it has to be about the amount of backend support for it.

I reckon Dominic is right. No desqueeze in the EVF or monitor outs.

Do you think one could live with that for an entire feature? Framing on a desqueezed image in the viewfinder? Could you de-anamorphize with an external box between the camera and the monitor? I guess that's your lot with Panavision(?) Never been on an anamorphic film shoot...
 
Bettsy, on a film camera your viewfinder will have integrated anamorphic correction.

It would be a seriously brave/foolish person who attempted to frame their shots with their horizontal perspective squashed by half (in my opinion). So if you wanted to shoot anamorphic on Red, some method of de-squeezing the image would be necessary for monitoring.
 
Well, in all fairness, for many, many years operators used to frame with a squeezed image - it was quite a while between the advent of anamorphic lenses and the point when VFs caught up. Not for the faint of heart, though!

In this day and age though, many external monitors will desqueeze your anamorphic frame (the Carrion LCD will do it, and that's a pretty "budget" LCD monitor, for example), but a bigger question will be whether or not you can get around the fact that the camera will probably still be outputting 16:9. Testing would need to be done, but I'm sure a solution could be found - most monitors would, I suspect, either chop off the edges (great, you're in business) or squeeze the whole frame down, which means it's tape up your monitor time - but still definitely usable, especially for an indie feature.

That's my guess on it, at least!
 
Anamorphic would be awesome, just seems that it isn't going to happen.:bye2:
 
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