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Say " Goodbye " Full HD ( Samsung UltraHD work on Mac - confirmed )

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Hello ,
Today I got my new Samsung U28D590 ( $ 650 ) ....
Connect to my My old Mac pro with nVidia GTX 680 ....
First result : 2560x 1440 !!! :sneaky2:
Updated to Mac OSX 10.9.3 ( beta )
Wow : 3840 x2160 @ 60Hz
YYYYEEEESSSSS.... :seeya:

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Mac OSX also offer next resolution settings :
4096x2304
4608x2592
5120x2880 WOW
6016x3384 WOW
6400x3600 ?????

Who want to buy my 3 pcs of Full HD monitor LG IPS237L ?
Please offer
Malk
 
Nice
 
Wait… That monitor supports UHD @ 60Hz???

Anyway, yeah, the 4K support in 10.9.3 is shaping up real nice.
 
I see that most 4K monitors on the market have a native resolution of 3840 pixels (UHD standard).

Are there any 4096 monitors who can also do 60Hz?
 
George A. said:
I see that most 4K monitors on the market have a native resolution of 3840 pixels (UHD standard).

Are there any 4096 monitors who can also do 60Hz?
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Not many offer 4096 pixels wide (DCI spec / true 4K), but LG is about to launch their 31UM95 "True 4K" monitor with a 4096x2160 pixel resolution and it supports full 4K @ 60Hz via Thunderbolt2 and DisplayPort 1.2. I think the monitor ships in June. All the others I know about are more expensive pro monitors, and even those are few and far between. The Sony 4K projectors are 4096x2160 native resolution and the current crop supports that at 60Hz via HDMI 2.0 input.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Not many offer 4096 pixels wide (DCI spec / true 4K), but LG is about to launch their 31UM95 "True 4K" monitor with a 4096x2160 pixel resolution and it supports full 4K @ 60Hz via Thunderbolt2 and DisplayPort 1.2. I think the monitor ships in June. All the others I know about are more expensive pro monitors, and even those are few and far between. The Sony 4K projectors are 4096x2160 native resolution and the current crop supports that at 60Hz via HDMI 2.0 input.
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The LG is an interesting option, Jeff. Thanks for pointing it out.

Any preliminary price? Even rumored...
 
how do you connect it to a New Mac Pro? What cable do you use please let me know very interested in getting one!!!!
 
For this Samsung, or the other current crop of 4K / UHD 60Hz monitors out there, you have to use DisplayPort. So that's a mini-displayport connector plugging into the Thunderbolt2 port of a new Mac Pro or current generation MBPr/ iMac. And then the proper mini or full sized DisplayPort connector on the other end of the cable to connect to the monitor. You can't use Thunderbolt cables to connect the monitors as they have active electronics on both ends and don't simply pass a displayport signal. The upcoming LG 4K monitor will offer a Thunderbolt2 interface in addition to common DisplayPort 1.2 and HDMI, meaning you can use Thunderbolt cables, even the super-long optical ones.

The latest iMac will output 4K via HDMI / DisplayPort, but I don't know if it will do 60Hz via multi-stream. The new Mac Pro does, as does the latest Macbook Pro retina model.

You must use a 21Gbps rated DisplayPort v1.2 cable to get proper MST support for 4K 60Hz. I'm running the 24" Dell UP2414Q at 3840x2160 60Hz from a new Mac Pro and it works great. The cable was included with the monitor, but I also have another one From Accel that works too and was about $16 on Amazon. The Nippon Labs DP 1.2 cables can be had from vendors like NewEgg and they seem to work alright as well and are a bit cheaper.

I have seen price speculation on the LG 4K monitor that ranges anywhere from $1500 to $4500. LG has not formally announced any price yet. There are also some rumors flying that Apple will be launching a 4K cinema display of their own at WWDC that uses the same panel and will have a $2500 price point. I can't seem to get any form of solid confirmation on that, so could be entirely bogus.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
I have seen price speculation on the LG 4K monitor that ranges anywhere from $1500 to $4500. LG has not formally announced any price yet. There are also some rumors flying that Apple will be launching a 4K cinema display of their own at WWDC that uses the same panel and will have a $2500 price point. I can't seem to get any form of solid confirmation on that, so could be entirely bogus.
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$3000 would be my guess on the LG, assuming it's a 50". I agree, having a 4K monitor is a missing link in the chain from Apple, and I'm surprised they haven't jumped on that yet. I suspect they do not want to source it from Samsung, given their legal problems back and forth.
 
Viewport/Thunderbolt cable for 60HZ. HDMI for 30HZ.
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So just a simple Thunderbolt Cable would work? I want to run dual monitors so 2 thunderbolt cables (and just thunderbolt to thunderbolt no conversion kit) Please let me know thanks!!!!
 
Marc Wielage said:
$3000 would be my guess on the LG, assuming it's a 50". I agree, having a 4K monitor is a missing link in the chain from Apple, and I'm surprised they haven't jumped on that yet. I suspect they do not want to source it from Samsung, given their legal problems back and forth.
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The LG is 31".. Also will be available in 29" size.
 
Marc Wielage said:
$3000 would be my guess on the LG, assuming it's a 50". I agree, having a 4K monitor is a missing link in the chain from Apple, and I'm surprised they haven't jumped on that yet. I suspect they do not want to source it from Samsung, given their legal problems back and forth.
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The LG with 4096x2160 resolution is a 31" display with HDMI, DisplayPort and Thunderbolt2 inputs. It's already been shown at CES in January and is set to arrive to the USA and most other markets in June/July. No official price yet, lots of speculation.

LG does have a few different sizes of UHD/4K TV's. They have a 42"!!! a 52" and a 60", if I recall. I know the 42" is a go. They also have 57" and 77" models with OLED panels coming. I got to see the 77" OLED (curved screen). And WOW!!! The curved screen concept needs to die though. They're great if you sit at the sweet spot for viewing, otherwise they kinda suck. At 77" the curve is too defining and only fits a certain sized room with a certain sized viewing area at a particular distance. Bleh.

Neil Dearman said:
So just a simple Thunderbolt Cable would work? I want to run dual monitors so 2 thunderbolt cables (and just thunderbolt to thunderbolt no conversion kit) Please let me know thanks!!!!
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For the Samsung monitor or Dell monitor or others that use DisplayPort, then you need a DisplayPort v1.2 cable, not a Thunderbolt cable. For 4K @ 60Hz, it occupies both channels of the Thunderbolt interface, so you can't daisy-chain with other devices and maintain 4K 60Hz.

If the monitor has Thunderbolt2 as an interface, like the upcoming LG or the current LG 34UM95 ultra-wide 3440x1440 monitor, then you can use Thunderbolt cables. But daisy chaining doesn't really work out because you'll run out of bandwidth for the screen image.


Jens Rosengren said:
I've been thinking about getting that same Samsung display, or the Dell 28 inch 4K one (http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorer_och_tillbehor/197996-dell_p2815q_28-hdmi_dp-4k). Anyone knows which one is better? Price-wise they seem the same! Or is there any other cheap 4K monitor that will be better?
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The Dell 28" only support 30Hz at 4K. Get the Samsung or go with the other two Dell offerings. Their 24" is superb, I have one and really like it.
 
Billy Jim said:
Perhaps? a little hope for those of us who don't own the latest Macs;

http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1646-editor-hacks-2011-macbook-air-to-output-4k
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It's not a hack. Some Mac models do support 4K output. The Intel IRIS 4000 Graphics has 4K output, but only at 24/25Hz, as this guy discovered.

To get 50/60Hz, out of any Mac at this time, first and foremost the Mac *MUST* have Thunderbolt2. No exceptions. No other interface has the bandwidth to deliver it.
 
Thanks for your answer Jeff!

I really need a new monitor, and would love a 4K one. But naturally all good ones are above my price range. Any recommendation, not get a 4K one that's better or get a half-bad 4K one?
 
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