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Run-N-Gun Rig

Chris McKechnie

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Sorry for the cell-phone picts, but this should give you the idea. Taken out in front of a home I was shooting at this morning.

Here's my running around rig minus the tripod of course. :-) It's pretty balanced too.

Using:
Shoot35 MatteBox (with Schneider Plat IRND's)
Cinevate Uno Rod Grip
Cinevate Durus Follow Focus
45cm 15mm CF Rods
Cinevate Universal Tripod Plate (cheese plate)
(2) Cinveate Rail Blocks
Cinevate Simplis
Wooden Camera Top Plate, Rubber Top Handle, Easy Stick and Right Rear Plates
Wooden Camera Switronix V-Mount with Battery Back
Wooden Camera Quick Back
GlobalMedia Pro 160wh Battery (have 6 of these + 16 REDVolts)
Cinevate Shoulder Pad with Mount
Cinevate Counter-Balance
 

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I like the cinevate shoulder pad. how easy would it be to mount that to 19mm rods? I have a similar setup except I have 24inch long 19mm CF rods and have the redbrick mounted at the very rear (this makes for a long rig, but totally balanced)
 
Nice looking setup! I've been debating if I should get the shoot35 matte box. How are you liking it? Do you find that the 4x4 filters are enough for 5k? Are you able to use wide lenses?
 
The shoulder pad is great, however, I had to spend quite a bit of time figuring out how to make it work. My current solution works great. I love that the shoulder pad as the extra contouring metal that wraps around the shoulder perfectly, but you'll notice in my case, it's placed in the middle underneath the rods, because the single rail clamp won't support that much weight and will move around if the rods weren't above it. I know that was long and confusing, but if you're able to mount it like I have here, it's perfect and comfortable and provides ample cushion.
 
I like it! But do you not feel that the lens sits a bit high? I wonder if you mounted your rods off the top of the Epic and moved the battery off the back of that, if that might be a variation on your rig?

That might make the camera sit too far forward? But hey you might not mind the lens being a bit high. BTW just watched your Zacuto spot on your site... very nice! I think their Zwiss plate might work well for hanging the battery off the back.
 
I like it! But do you not feel that the lens sits a bit high? I wonder if you mounted your rods off the top of the Epic and moved the battery off the back of that, if that might be a variation on your rig?

That might make the camera sit too far forward? But hey you might not mind the lens being a bit high. BTW just watched your Zacuto spot on your site... very nice! I think their Zwiss plate might work well for hanging the battery off the back.

In relation to the FF, yes the camera/lens is high and I have Cinevate currently working on a solution to bring the camera down a bit.

I don't really care for the rigs that have top-mounted rods...then where would the FF go? Plus, I like having the extra support underneath the camera. :-)

Thanks for the compliment too. :-)
 
I understand quite well that balance is more critical than total weight and size, but holy moly. This rig elegantly deals with issues that other setups fail to address but if you need to put a bigger lens on it, it looks like you would need a ton of counter-weight.

Not to be harsh, I genuinely like some aspects of this rig, but it looks like it would only suit shoulder shooting well and might actually make some other hand held positions trickier. In my experience as a hand held operator, particularly on multi-cam gigs, the ability to do dutch angles, sweeps and other more aggressive moves is often what the director wants from me. If I'm just a human tripod then your setup might be great - though it looks front heavy in the photo.

Cheers - #19
 
I understand quite well that balance is more critical than total weight and size, but holy moly. This rig elegantly deals with issues that other setups fail to address but if you need to put a bigger lens on it, it looks like you would need a ton of counter-weight.

Not to be harsh, I genuinely like some aspects of this rig, but it looks like it would only suit shoulder shooting well and might actually make some other hand held positions trickier. In my experience as a hand held operator, particularly on multi-cam gigs, the ability to do dutch angles, sweeps and other more aggressive moves is often what the director wants from me. If I'm just a human tripod then your setup might be great - though it looks front heavy in the photo.

Cheers - #19

The counterweight alone is 12lbs, which almost completely offsets the "front-heaviness." The entire rig is about 20lbs, but the weight is distributed evenly over my shoulder/frame. I'm able to achieve dutch angles, shoot from the knees, etc relatively easily and quickly.

I also have a monopod setup too, which is great!! I will get some pictures of that too. I mount my Miller 25 head directly to the monopod via the Cinevate Dromos high hat. That way I can quickly go from tripod, to shoulder rig, to monopod.
 
Thanks Chris-
some great tips. Will have a look at that Mono-pod....

Stu Aull
Alaska
 
I'm really liking this set up! Looking forward to seeing the monpod rig. Hey Chris, any particular reason why you're looking to get the Red Pro matte box over the shoot35? Or would you want to sell your Shoot35 matte box if you end up getting a Red MB? :wink5:
 
I'm really liking this set up! Looking forward to seeing the monpod rig. Hey Chris, any particular reason why you're looking to get the Red Pro matte box over the shoot35? Or would you want to sell your Shoot35 matte box if you end up getting a Red MB? :wink5:

Yes, I will be selling my Shoot35MB (which I love btw) complete with the Schneider Plat IRND filters. I need a bigger MB and filters for bigger lenses. :-)
 
Here's a pict of my monopod setup. Uses the Gitzo Carbon Fiber 3 stage monopod and Manfrotto 325N Video head Bowl Adapter.

As soon as my new shoulder rig comes, I'll post detailed pictures of that.
 

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Yes, I will be selling my Shoot35MB (which I love btw) complete with the Schneider Plat IRND filters. I need a bigger MB and filters for bigger lenses. :-)
Great rig!

I'm very interested in the Durus and the Shoot35 MB, but a bit worried about wider lenses with the Shoot35, esp. with the Dragon coming down the mountain soon!

What MB are you leaning towards?

BTW - the Durus promo videos really impressed me - they seem to be doing things right. All metal, lifetime warranty, metal rings.

I notice that you have your FF mounted on the left.

I've never set up a rig before, so if you have any tips (I only have the Scarlet, LCD, side handle and REDmote so far), I'm really starting from scratch and hoping to avoid any fatal mistakes.
 
Thats not a run and gun.... :) this is a run and gun.... :)

Crocodile Dundee...

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