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RPZ 18-85 or Cooke 18-100

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Antonio Rossi

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i need to purchase a interview zoom for my Sony F3. I love the Cooke 18-100, but the RPZ seems like a great modern zoom for the price. I worried about buying a 20 year old lens. Any opinions?
 
I am in love with the Cooke 18-100. They currently go for about $13.5k used.

That being said, I've used the Red 18-85mm and it is good for the price.
 
Price wins.... Im sure the RED ZOOM is great!

But the 18 to 100 cooke CLASSIC!!!!!!! not the earlier ones... Is the one to get!

I sold this one for 10k... And I miss it :( so so sharp.

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I have the 18-85 and I am in love with it.

The downfall, is well it's a beast. I think the Cooke is larger, so doesn't seem like you will be dodging that bullet.
 
What's the story with the Cooke Classic? I've heard it doesn't have any lens coatings. Is that true? It looks a bit more modern, but I can't find one anywhere.
 
It is in NYC now since I bought Mark's 18-100 Classic. What a beautiful lens!
Thanks Mark!
 
Mark Toia said:
Price wins.... Im sure the RED ZOOM is great!

But the 18 to 100 cooke CLASSIC!!!!!!! not the earlier ones... Is the one to get!

I sold this one for 10k... And I miss it :( so so sharp.
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Aaargh! Tell me about it... I had one of those beauties as well and sold it a bit over a year ago because I wasn't really using it at the time. Stupid, stupid! One of the dumbest things I've done. Oh well...
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Antonio Rossi said:
What's the story with the Cooke Classic? I've heard it doesn't have any lens coatings. Is that true? It looks a bit more modern, but I can't find one anywhere.
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It was the last production run of the Cooke 18-100, that I'm aware of. Not sure where you heard that about coatings, but it's got them and they're wonderful. It's a big, heavy and beautiful lens. For most production and rentals, the Optimo 17-80 T2 has replaced it, but the old Cooke is still a winner!
 
MTF makes a canon to F3 adapter that controls the iris. get that, and find a use sigma 50-150 2.8 zoom. 18-100 is nice, but big and heavy. you don't need to go out as far as 18 for interviews, and 85 might leave you short in a two camera interview when you need to back up. or get a lightweight zoom, in the range of 30-80, if you are the only camera and can get closer, but i would stay away from very heavy lenses with the F3 if you want to keep your life simple. remember, a heavy lens, you will have to get a really good tripod, add that to the price.
 
Sorry to disagree with you all here but the RPZ 18-85 has proven to be a much better lens then the Coke 18-100, sharper, better build, and a more consistent look true out the zoom range, RED really did a fantastic job on this zoom, especially at the price point!!

The only lenses that I have found more favorable for me was the Arri/Zeiss LW zoom and the Master Zoom beast, other then them I have found none to equal the RPZ, and I have tested them all, but to each their own, however once again as for sharpness the RPZ 18-85 is sharper then the Cooke 18-100, and it is much better looking too... ;)

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No body said the RED ZOOM wasn't sharp, I vouch for it... we are saying how pin sharp the 18 to 100 CLASSIC is... not the series i or II but the series III Classic.

So settle Ketch... What ever you own is still good my friend... Oh... and one is 100mm max focal length and the other is 85.... Heheheheh thought Id chuck that in. :)

All cool mate. :)

We all aaaaaaaaaaaalllll love RED..


KETCH ROSSi said:
Sorry to disagree with you all here but the RPZ 18-85 has proven to be a much better lens then the Coke 18-100, sharper, better build, and a more consistent look true out the zoom range, RED really did a fantastic job on this zoom, especially at the price point!!

The only lenses that I have found more favorable for me was the Arri/Zeiss LW zoom and the Master Zoom beast, other then them I have found none to equal the RPZ, and I have tested them all, but to each their own, however once again as for sharpness the RPZ 18-85 is sharper then the Cooke 18-100, and it is much better looking too... ;)

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Just giving the guy a tough on the RPZ, since his thread did ask for one or... ;)

Also I don't like the Cooke look, so here you have it now he he.


Mark Toia said:
No body said the RED ZOOM wasn't sharp, I vouch for it... we are saying how pin sharp the 18 to 100 CLASSIC is... not the series i or II but the series III Classic.

So settle Ketch... What ever you own is still good my friend... Oh... and one is 100mm max focal length and the other is 85.... Heheheheh thought Id chuck that in. :)

All cool mate. :)

We all aaaaaaaaaaaalllll love RED..
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I have to say, I too miss my 18-100. The weight was an issue. (I shoot solo a lot & I"m not young.) But with the Epic, de facto, the Cooke loses a third of its weight. the Red 18-85 is great as well and has the computer preciseness and predictability. . And if you don't feel an affinity for the Cooke esthetic (like Ketch), then forget it of course. But many a great movie was shot entirely on the 18-100 -- and I suspect there will be ones in the future. That lens is the Humphrey Bogart of cinema zooms.
 
Mark Toia said:
We had the series I years ago... looked like I was shooting through a milk bottle..
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A milk bottle?
My example does not look so, nor does the many many movies I have seen shot with the 20-100.
It has that diffused style wide open, but gets very sharp and beautiful at the T4/5.6 split.
 
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