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Hello everyone!

We've decided to move from the videotape age and sell both of ours HDW-F900R and HDW-700A.

So far we haven't used any cine lenses so the transition must be as smooth as it can be, to get familiar w/ those we've just got a used Mini35 and the HVX200 should be a good learning tool. Now some lenses are needed.

Considering a set of conversion Zeiss ZF Set 25mm F2.8, = 35mm=20 F2.0, 50mm F1.4, 85mm F1.4 from RP Lenses, anyone here ever had hands on it?
After that we can move forward to Epic, or wherever, and some real cine lenses.

Cheers, Happy New Year!!!

Mark Olsen, DP
Danish Dundas Films - London, OT
 
Hi Mark

Welcome to REDUSER!

IMHO you will want to get a set that includes something wider than a 25mm.

"Standard" expectations of set of primes would include an 18mm on top of the ones you have mentioned.
 
Hej Mark,

There is a 21mm coming out in february i ordered. i have the 25,35,50macro,85, 100macro (on backorder)- and a tokina 11-16mm.

they (the ZF) are the nicest still lenses mechanically I could find, but I do think they breathe alot... but they seem sharp and they are like 6k usd for a whole set:)

You are Danish=?

EDIT - P+S technik completely rehouse the lenses. Seem very nice. but adding focus gear and stepup rings is a must. - (that I myself have been stalling..)
 
Dylan Macleod said:
Hi Mark

Welcome to REDUSER!

IMHO you will want to get a set that includes something wider than a 25mm.

"Standard" expectations of set of primes would include an 18mm on top of the ones you have mentioned.
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Thanks a lot Dylan, would know any matching 18mm for the ZF set?
 
Dylan Macleod said:
Hi Mark

Welcome to REDUSER!

IMHO you will want to get a set that includes something wider than a 25mm.

"Standard" expectations of set of primes would include an 18mm on top of the ones you have mentioned.
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Sidney said:
Hej Mark,

There is a 21mm coming out in february i ordered. i have the 25,35,50macro,85, 100macro (on backorder)- and a tokina 11-16mm.

they (the ZF) are the nicest still lenses mechanically I could find, but I do think they breathe alot... but they seem sharp and they are like 6k usd for a whole set:)

You are Danish=?

EDIT - P+S technik completely rehouse the lenses. Seem very nice. but adding focus gear and stepup rings is a must. - (that I myself have been stalling..)
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Thank you for helping me Sidney, please tell some more about that 21mm, who makes it?
I'll check for the P+S but that must be much more expensive than the RP ones.

My father is Danish, mom German and I was born in Toronto, what a mess!!!
 
21mm Zeiss Nikon ZF mount based on the old legendary Contax Zeiss 21mm.

I own one of this... Almost impossible to find now as well owners keep it :)
 
With all due respect, in my opinion selling your F900 to use an interim camera like the HVX200/mini35 with Zeiss ZF lenses until a new Red camera is released is a substantial downgrade!
Having shot with the F900R I can say that the 24p look is fantastic.
Zeiss Digiprimes or a great zoom with this camera still looks stellar compared to many other cameras. Record to HDCam tape for an instant backup, the camera has a great looking SD downconvert, dual SDI output, and is clean as hell compared to the grainy look of a mini35 into an HVX200.
I'll agree that the new red cameras sounds nice, but at this point in time you can't buy one.

Why not get used to shooting cinema style by renting a nice set of DigiPrimes for the F900?
 
I agree with that. There is nothing wrong with tape based acquisition. I use the F900, my two reds, hvx200. Whatever is best for the job and that is not always RED. Cine lenses are no different than video lenses. If you understand camera lenses you will not have a problem. If anything the cine primes will be easier.

But do not downgrade from a F900 to a HVX. Use the digi primes or rent a pro 35 and some Ultra Primes if you want to play with cine lenses.
 
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David W. Jones said:
With all due respect, in my opinion selling your F900 to use an interim camera like the HVX200/mini35 with Zeiss ZF lenses until a new Red camera is released is a substantial downgrade!
Having shot with the F900R I can say that the 24p look is fantastic.
Zeiss Digiprimes or a great zoom with this camera still looks stellar compared to many other cameras. Record to HDCam tape for an instant backup, the camera has a great looking SD downconvert, dual SDI output, and is clean as hell compared to the grainy look of a mini35 into an HVX200.
I'll agree that the new red cameras sounds nice, but at this point in time you can't buy one.

Why not get used to shooting cinema style by renting a nice set of DigiPrimes for the F900?
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We wouldn't make such a tremendous downgrade from HDCAM to HVX200, what I meant was that we already have a couple of HVX200 and would use one of them to get familiar w/ those cine lenses. Sorry if I haven't made myself clear enough.

Our plan is to perform a smooth transition and have the HDCAM gear sold after that, no rushes. It can take a year as we have somes jobs committed in HDCAM for the next 8 months.

The Digiprimes are a very expensive investment to be made having in mind that our HDWs are losing value day after day. I feel like crying when thinking that we've spent almost $100,000 buying the 900R and today's day you can get one for under $40k at eBay. Not to say about the 700A that worth no more than 15k these days 'cause 1080i can be gotten on $900 handycams today. And we even have a HDW-F500 w/ all options that can be found for less than $30K now, we’ve paid close over $65K on it back to 2006.

We're making a long term investment plan and have to make sure to be aiming on the right direction as there are a lot of new emerging technologies and ain’t no hard to make a wrong choice.
Thank you all for the tips!!

Cheers!
 
How about the RP Lenses??

How about the RP Lenses??

Thanks Chuck for the tips.

Now, what about the RP Lenses, does anyone know about the quality of their conversion?

Happy 2009!!
 
I wouldn't really call it a conversion.
They simply add focus gears and matching diameter fronts.
They can also de-click the aperture, which will void the warranty of new lenses.
 
Sidney said:
EDIT - P+S technik completely rehouse the lenses. Seem very nice. but adding focus gear and stepup rings is a must. - (that I myself have been stalling..)
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AFAIK the p&s technik digital set is not completely rehoused. don't get me wrong, it is a nice set of lenses but you still have many disadvantages of still lenses - for example a short focus throw.

regards,
martin
 
martinnoweck said:
AFAIK the p&s technik digital set is not completely rehoused. don't get me wrong, it is a nice set of lenses but you still have many disadvantages of still lenses - for example a short focus throw.

regards,
martin
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P+S sells their stuff like it was made outta gold, very expensive for what it offers. We only bought the Mini35 because it was a bargain, seller was desperate for money and even considering going to a pawn shop. We wouldn't pay the ZGC $12,000.00 for that ever as a Brevis does the very same and costs 1/5 of that.

We're ordering the RP set on Monday, let you guys know how it behaves.

Cheers!!!
 
How were the RP Lenses? There have been some negative things written about them by mod Evan Grant before. He stated that they looked to be a poor value for the money, but I don't know of any first hand reviews yet.

Link to Evan's comments here: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=67290&postcount=21
 
davide said:
How were the RP Lenses? There have been some negative things written about them by mod Evan Grant before. He stated that they looked to be a poor value for the money, but I don't know of any first hand reviews yet.

Link to Evan's comments here: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=67290&postcount=21
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Boy, Evan did rip into this guy. I think now he has Zeiss ZF lens(es) part of his list of lenses...I don't know if its any better than just going to e-bay to by the lenses there without the modification.
 
You're right, Evan did rip into me quite a while back. Maybe because I was the only one out there providing that service. But I'll just say this , We shop long and hard the world over to find the most pristine quality glass. We have an SLR Lens tech who's been at it for more than thirty years and I've been a DP for 25.
I like to call our Nikons : Pre-owned / Serviced / Pristine Condition.
Our Upgrades are very functional and solid. The prime set prices are reasonable because we take the lens to the point of functionality in the cinema world without
an expensive re-housing. And we have many very satisfied customers from all over the world. Thanks for listening, Peter at rplens.com
 
Love the Zeiss ZF lenses! Get the 100mm. It's a real diva lens and I always grab for it...
 
Well Pete, I still think your prices are high but the world of lenses has changed and I understand that expediency is worth money. Sometimes a lot of money. I'm sure some think I'm expensive for my services too so that's all fine and dandy. I've seen what Duclos Does to their ZF's and as I understand that's who does your gears and rings correct Pete? If so it's good stuff.
 
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