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restoration tools in the SCRATCH

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i went to FILM MASTER demo..
i found SCRATCH color tools better than it!

BUT i found their many tools for film restoration (i think not found at the SCRATCh)

like De-grain... removing scratches automatically..

is this found in the Scratch by default without plugins?

romy
 
Not really, but there are a number of plugins in the OFX architecture (same as Baselight, Nuke) that can perform similar functions. I know filmmaster has some excellent tools in this area, but you may want to look at Foundry UK's plugins for Nuke (they work in Scratch). I've been using them for years and they're excellent.

cheers,

John T.
 
John Tissavary said:
Not really, but there are a number of plugins in the OFX architecture (same as Baselight, Nuke) that can perform similar functions. I know filmmaster has some excellent tools in this area, but you may want to look at Foundry UK's plugins for Nuke (they work in Scratch). I've been using them for years and they're excellent.

cheers,

John T.
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you mean Furnace?

but why not assimilate add this tools?
it is DI so it should has all this tools!

Lustre,film master has!
 
romy said:
you mean Furnace?

but why not assimilate add this tools?
it is DI so it should has all this tools!

Lustre,film master has!
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You seem to be under the assumption that all products should have exactly the same capabilities, regardless of price. That is a very unrealistic and unfair assumption.

Film Master started out as Nucoda Data Conform. It was bought by Digital Vision, whose business primarily consisted of video processing products, primarily a product called DVNR, which incorporated some very good noise reduction algorithms and very effective automated dirt removal. The reason Film Master has these things now is because Digital Vision already had them. Lustre started out as 5D Colossus (with Colorfront software underneath), which didn't have any of these features, either. It was then bought by Autodesk, which had a lot of that technology already and folded it in. Digital Intermediate, while it may include things like this as part of the overall process, is primarily about data conforming, color correction, and creation of multiple format deliverables. Things like dirt cleanup have been, until very, very recently, done as separate processes on either visual effects platforms, or more commonly by using programs such as MTI's DRS, Pixel Farm's PF Clean, or, yes, Digital Vision's various products.

I would point out that besides Autodesk and Digital Vision, no other vendors include such features - and that includes DaVinci (they have a separate product called Revival) and Filmlight. If this is something you really want and need, you should get a Film Master or Lustre system. Or you could spend a lot less and get Scratch along with, say, a PF Clean system (you can buy that turnkey, I believe it's still less than $20K), and with the added advantage of being able to do dirt cleanup and DI work simultaneously (assuming both are on a common SAN). Your choice.
 
romy said:
you mean Furnace?

but why not assimilate add this tools?
it is DI so it should has all this tools!

Lustre,film master has!
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In terms of film restoration all Lustre can offer are two plug ins, that only do noise reduction and not very well at that. I wouldn't even call that film restoration tools. For any kind meaningful film restoration you'd need something akin to PF Clean or MTI, as already mentioned. Baselight simply sends the project to PF Clean and it does it's magic in the background seamlessly. In order to do any serious film restoration, you'd need much more, than just a simple noise and flicker reduction, sharpen and dirt removal, that Film Master does. At a minimum you'd need to be able to do a tear repair, frame repair De-warp, De-fog and other wonderful time consuming feats. Dust busting based on IR info from the scanner wouldn't hurt either (OK Luster does that). Color grading solutions optimized for speedy color grading. To do film restoration in color grading session would be prohibitively costly and very inefficient. Instead of trying to do all that in a million dollar suite by the highly paid colorist, much faster and better results can be achieved on $17,000 PF Clean by a first year assistant.
 
But Furnace 4400$
and it will be one solution package with the scratch !

or you think the PF clean is better in resluts?
 
romy said:
But Furnace 4400$
and it will be one solution package with the scratch !

or you think the PF clean is better in resluts?
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It all depends on how extensive your film restoration needs are.
If you need a true film restoration, it's hard to beat PF clean or MTI. They specifically designed for that purpose. Scratch is designed for grading, but for an occasional noise or grain removal with plugin help it is fine...
 
Despe said:
There's one tool for restoration that people never think about and which can be nicely integrated with Scratch. It's named "Diamant" and is developed by HS-Art in Germany:
Check this: http://www.hs-art.com/html/products/diamant.html and the press release from last NAB:
http://www.hs-art.com/files/diamant/20090414 Diamant&Assimilate.pdf

A demo version and manual are downloadable with full functionalities. Only difference is that you can't save the retouched frames with this trial version.
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Diamant is widely used suite for the film restoration, but like PF Clean it's neither a plugin nor is it particularly much cheaper as well...
 
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