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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RELEASED: BETA FIRMWARE - BUILD 16 (v3.2.4)

Do we really need that logo during booting ?
Wouldn't a white typo saying "Initializing" in the black bottm part of the screen be enough ?
Everybody on set already knows it's a Red...
 
Hmm, the RED must be a good machine for guys to be whinging about startup logos.

I mean, no offense guys, but I kind of like the logo boot up. We see them all the time on the computer; Photoshop, FCP, etc and I'm sure we are used to them. I think its only QuickTime on my Mac that I have to check the Finder to see its on.

Let's see. Considering how busy the boot up time period is; checking the monitors, taping cables, and so on, it passes fast. :meh:
 
Ashoka said:
Hmm, the RED must be a good machine for guys to be whinging about startup logos.

I mean, no offense guys, but I kind of like the logo boot up. We see them all the time on the computer; Photoshop, FCP, etc and I'm sure we are used to them. I think its only QuickTime on my Mac that I have to check the Finder to see its on.

Let's see. Considering how busy the boot up time period is; checking the monitors, taping cables, and so on, it passes fast. :meh:
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Yes, but with those programs you cannot do anything useful during that time. With the RED, because you can see your framing, it's a useful tool for lighting/framing.

You are thinking of when you are firing up the camera on the opening setup for a shoot day. I am thinking of when you are switching setups or switching out batteries and the DP & director are wondering why they can't have picture up on their monitor (the last two RED shoots I've been asked that by the director)

All there should be is a small text at the bottom of the screen..low enough that it's not blocking your framing any.

Matthew
 
Trust me when I say that there are plenty of times when you need to boot up and there is not much else to do but wait and do little lighting tweaks which usually call for having a monitor up. Maybe I can take that time to go to craft services, or I could take up smoking. That would end up being a lo of trips to craft services or a lot of smoking.
 
SF Geek said:
Trust me when I say that there are plenty of times when you need to boot up and there is not much else to do but wait and do little lighting tweaks which usually call for having a monitor up.
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Gotta agree with this. Everyone knows the camera is a RED. Besides... it's actually bad NLP. At the exact moment someone is nervous and antsy about getting the next shot up and wanting the boot time to be faster what they see is a RED logo. Bad anchor/association. I swear I should be charging for this stuff.
 
It's a camera, it shouldn't even "boot"
 
Boot up

Boot up

It's a camera, it shouldn't even "boot"
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But its not "just" a camera, its an intelligent, file based image acquisition and playback system. So it boots ..
 
I know I know, I just couldn't resist. I just work with to many guys that don't get the amazing amount of stuff going on inside the camera.

Every time I boot it up I am astounded at whats going on in front of me. (when it boots that is . . . sorry couldn't resist)
 
joelnet said:
Gotta agree with this. Everyone knows the camera is a RED. Besides... it's actually bad NLP. At the exact moment someone is nervous and antsy about getting the next shot up and wanting the boot time to be faster what they see is a RED logo. Bad anchor/association. I swear I should be charging for this stuff.
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You are so right! Red seems to forget that people other than camera geeks are seeing these outputs!

Nothing like stopping in the middle of shooting for a battery change and having the money people spend 90 seconds watching a "This expensive downtime that seems much longer than it really is has been brought to you by Red Digital Cinema" commercial!

And don't get me started on the big dramatic X's when you dare to dial in an incompatible speed or fill up a card. As if people aren't nervous enough about this mysterious camera already!

Red needs to begin concentrating more on how they are perceived by the non-technical decision makers.
 
I just came back from testing some time lapse shots at night on busy streets and I got a lot of codec errors, I was recording 4K 2:1 to a CF.
Basically the shots that worked were the ones during twilight, then after it got fully dark problems began, my guess is due to high contrast issues = codec error on time lapse?
 
CrewPix.com said:
You are so right! Red seems to forget that people other than camera geeks are seeing these outputs!

Nothing like stopping in the middle of shooting for a battery change and having the money people spend 90 seconds watching a "This expensive downtime that seems much longer than it really is has been brought to you by Red Digital Cinema" commercial!

And don't get me started on the big dramatic X's when you dare to dial in an incompatible speed or fill up a card. As if people aren't nervous enough about this mysterious camera already!

Red needs to begin concentrating more on how they are perceived by the non-technical decision makers.
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Couldn't have said it better. Where the camera shines is when the 4k images are brought up in post and you get to see pretty images, all the people that have to wait for it on set don't get to see that side of things, so I think even the little things on set will make a big difference on how the camera is perceived.
 
Julian, can you please send me the log file from the camera? (t h e b i e d - a t - r e d . c o m)

Thanks.
 
Boot Screen

Boot Screen

You are so right! Red seems to forget that people other than camera geeks are seeing these outputs!
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We are quite aware of that, but there is a reality behind the technology that's being deployed to bring you these amazing images.

The system needs to boot, it won't / can't work without booting. We could go back to the way it was in Build 15 if its preferred...
 
TheBied said:
Julian, can you please send me the log file from the camera? (t h e b i e d - a t - r e d . c o m)

Thanks.
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Sure I will send them to you tomorrow morning, I have them at the office.
 
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