REDucation student comment area for May 2011 class at RED Studios Hollywood

[TedRed]

I like all of these comments - I asked for them, and we are getting them... in a class of 60+ (I agree it was a lot, this was one of our biggest classes ever) and we tried a number of "firsts" in this class, like we do in every class. Even though we had a lot of REDs, RED Lenses, support gear and Post gear, we could have used a bit more gear, a bit more staff, etc. - we learn each time, in each class and hone and improve accordingly.

I can tell you for sure that our classes are not about maximizing profit - we barely have time to think about all the 100's of logistical details with such a small staff, much less try and "run the numbers" to see how much cash we can make This is genuinely because we care about education on this relatively young camera, and think it's worth our time and effort to teach this class...

it's easy to say the class was great all around, and it's harder to critique certain soft spots without sounding like you are coming down on the entire experience, so I appreciate the people that are taking the time to give us food for thought to be aware of while also letting us know what they liked and got the most out of.

everything is a give and take - the guest speakers are really interesting and valuable on many fronts, but time is a finite resource as you know... 3 fully packed days of learning with an hour or so of guests in apx. 30 hours of class seems like a pretty good balance to me.

I think the NYC video class was really interesting and worked so well for the first time out, that we are already looking at how to improve that and make it even more viable on many fronts. No profit logic there, the simple goal is to have the ability to teach people from far away places the RED, without them having to make a long, expensive trip... (of course nothing can replace being there in person, but this was the best yet I've ever seen in terms of remote learning technology in action)

60 or so personalities all coming to learn and figure things out is really challenging on many fronts - fun and rewarding, and challenging... I love it.

I'll post the low rez version of the class pix here in a minute.

+ Ted

 

[TedRed]

REDucation May 2011 class photo at RED Studios

REDucation May 2011 class photo at RED Studios

super low rez jpeg exported from the EPIC that shot the class photo...

 

[AnthonyFlores]

The following is based on five days of attendence. (I did skip several hours here and there, but discovered that I didn't miss much.)

First, the Red staff was fantastic. My three plus years of experience in dealing with Red staff has always been good. Meeting some of these same people in person and seeing how hard they work to make the attendees comfortable was a joy. I'm not too good on names, but Brian and Travis are two who jump out as real work horses. They certainly made my experience better.

Second, the attendees represented people from all over the world. I didn't met a person who wasn't nice. And most were very interesting people. There was a high school student from San Diego who had to get permission to skip school to attend. And his dad had to drive him up from San Diego and stay in town to chaperone him. There's a caring dad and a kid with a great future. There was the German who had lots of Red experience and shared his issues with Red post. Christopher (see above thread) from Chicago sat next to me and helped me through Redcine-X issues. A number of people were AC's and DP's (of sorts) all trying to improve their marketable skills. And there were a number of beginners, many who owned Reds and had not used them at all!!

There were a couple of gems for me in the class, which I will discuss at the end, but here I will go over the bad.

The concept of time management doesn't exist with Red executives. We spent /wasted hours and hours of valuable time listening to Red managment and guest DP's praise the Red camera. Ted is preaching to the choir. Everyday we were indoctrinated to the benefits of owing a Red. It got so bad that the section on sound was canceled so that we could hear how great the Red camera is. This underscores Red's lack of understanding of the importance of sound as evidenced in the poor Red One sound capabilities (apparently finally addressed in Epic).

The "class" was far too big. I understood that the class was originally to be limited to 50. We had 60 or so show up not including the ten name tags from people who signed up and didn't make it. This, along with the video conferencing, clearly showed that Red's bottom line is making money first, educating second. We broke up into groups of 7-8 or so to shoot scenes. Some people hogged the camera, others found themselves just standing around as stated in a thread above. The tie-in to New York was a distraction. This was an experiment that didn't work. I can't believe that the NYC attendees got anything out of this experiment and I know it was a distraction across the board. Lots of time waving back and forth. Ted forgets to turn on the feed several times.

With proper planning, the two extra days for post or advanced photography, could have been cut to one day each. I got a lot out of the post class, but I missed shooting on green screen. Again, if we didn't squander so much time hearing about how great Red is, there would have been plenty of time to have included both.

I think everyone was complimentary on the quality and quantity of food for the first three days--broiled chicken, rare roast beef. But days four and five (where attendees paid more per day than the first group), food was macaroni and cheese and sloppy joes. Keep those costs down is Red managment's creed.

The low point for me was when this big Red management guy gets in front of us smoking his cigar. We have a guest speaker telling us how great the Red camera is. When the Mr Cigar offers one to our guest speaker, the guest politely says no. By the end of the talk, the guest speaker is now standing 30 feet away from Mr. Cigar. People are caughing in the audience. Mr. Gigar is oblivious to everything, sitting on the stage, occassionally fanning the smoke with his hand in an attempt to disapate it (into the audience). There is a certain arrogance with Red managment here, which I have commented on in past threads. Throughout California, laws say you can't smoke inside buildings. Not a sole in the audience was smoking other than Mr. Cigar.

Here are some highlights for me: 1) Michael Cimoni, CEO of Light Iron. Great speaker, educator and futurist. Two days with MIchael was worth the five day charge. I'm coming to this as a producer/director. I'm a generalist. Michael's talk really put past, present and future post into perspective for me. No doubt in my mind that I'm going to save a lot of money out the shoot by hearing Michael's talk; 2) Ted at Red. Although I blame Ted for the poor organization of the Reducation No. 8 and the wasted hours, if you had a technical question and came up to him for a private one on one, he was always available to me; 3) some fellow attendees. I met a few people that I will definately consider for crew spots on future shoots; 4) the sound guy at Coffey Sound. He volunteered to spend an hour with me next week in his shop to answer any questions I have on sound. That certainly impressed me.

A bit on Epic X. For all you bleading hearts feeling sorry for Red management, don't. After a few pointed but diverse questions to Red managment, here is what I got on the status of Epic X. There is a key part that is needed to finish completion of the Epic X. This key part is still being made, but in very small quantities and it's a part demanded by many other companies. Red is obtaining this part for Epic M at a premium, but this is offset by the premium price we pay for M. But Red management's problem is honoring the price quoted to Stage 2, 3 buyers while a key ingrediant has become very expensive. It appears that management's decision is to hold the price as promised until the unit price of the key part comes down. This means holding on to your deposits indefinately until a time that the camera can provide the originally anticipated profit margin to the company. There is a long waiting list for M's and their high profit margins, so pressure is off on processing X orders. I appreciate the moral and financial delema management is in. Many Redusers have suggested that they would be willing to pay more today to get their Epics. I know I would. My suggestion is that management offer Stage 2/3 buyers an alternative. Pay a premium now for a camera now or return the deposits as a show of good faith by managment without a loss of place in line. Why should Stage 2/3 buyers' deposits go to help Epic M buyers?

Finaly, good news. It was confirmed that Red is working on anamorphic lenses.

Tim, I wasn't there - so there's no way for me to comment on the details of your critique. I think your tone is a bit harsh and am glad Red has accepted such intense criticism so gracefully.

One area where I disagree strongly - is your stating that Red's intention is to "make money first, educate second" ....

Look man, even though you (and some others) feel the price is high, and that Red may have skimped on the costs -- why take such a pessimistic view? Also, even at 60 or 70 students Red grosses (not "nets") less than $200,000. For other companies that may be a big deal, for one that has literally sold hundreds of millions of dollars in cameras and accessories -- it's nothing.

So the notion that Red created such an event -- taking Ted away from his valuable promotional schedule (or anything else he could be doing to spread the word), requiring other staff, attracting great speakers, etc ... all so they can gross $200k???? That just seems silly.

Sorry man, you were blunt so you've got to expect a bit of that in return. Some of your statements made a lot of sense -- there is little need to "preach to the choir" about the merits of Red during an event where there is so much to cover and so little time. Everyone who drops $2-3k on an event is highly convinced already. But again, I don't know what was said - maybe some valuable info was woven into the "Red is great" message.

Lastly, I will say criticism is one thing, attacks are another. And some of your post seems to border on the latter. Might be a better idea to air some of the things that got you especially upset or frustrated before posting, IMHO, so that you have a chance to hear their side and maybe cool off a bit. But to each his own.

I'm still looking forward to Reducation later this year and was disappointed that I missed this one .....

 

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

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The concept of time management doesn't exist with Red executives. We spent /wasted hours and hours of valuable time listening to Red managment and guest DP's praise the Red camera. Ted is preaching to the choir. Everyday we were indoctrinated to the benefits of owing a Red. It got so bad that the section on sound was canceled so that we could hear how great the Red camera is. This underscores Red's lack of understanding of the importance of sound as evidenced in the poor Red One sound capabilities (apparently finally addressed in Epic).

....I can't believe that the NYC attendees got anything out of this experiment and I know it was a distraction across the board.

As an NYC attendee I'll chime in on both of those.

I agree entirely with your comments about too much preaching, I'd already made the exact same point to Ted privately.

NYC attendees paid $500. For that we got three days, working with RED cameras and a most excellent and experienced instructor: PatC from Offhollywood. The video link worked well, yes some sessions were less than easy to follow remotely, the iPad Dailies session stood out as a particularly bad example, but by and large it worked well, and the important bits - the many hours hands-on with the camera and an instructor (in a 4:1 student:instructor ratio) worked very well indeed. We all got a lot of time on the camera, including EPIC time. I got a lot out of the course and consider it a bargain. I'd recommend it to anyone and I'd do a similar course again.

Mike

 

[Joseph Hutson]

The low point for me was when this big Red management guy gets in front of us smoking his cigar. We have a guest speaker telling us how great the Red camera is. When the Mr Cigar offers one to our guest speaker, the guest politely says no. By the end of the talk, the guest speaker is now standing 30 feet away from Mr. Cigar. People are caughing in the audience. Mr. Gigar is oblivious to everything, sitting on the stage, occassionally fanning the smoke with his hand in an attempt to disapate it (into the audience). There is a certain arrogance with Red managment here, which I have commented on in past threads. Throughout California, laws say you can't smoke inside buildings.

I think if you were to know just an inkling of Jim's personality, you would see the circumstance in a different light. Each time I visit Stage 4 to be with Jim/Jarred, Jim takes the time to make sure the cigars don't bother his guests. When people have any slight hesitation to say whether it bothers them or not, Jim is the first to insist on putting the cigar out.

Even if you don't care for someone's policies and how he conducts himself at his own business headquarters, I think the least thing that one could do is show a hint of respect...

 

[Jannard]

Thanks for the post Joseph. I have always liked you. Don't worry about me... I learn something every day. And I take notes to remember what I learned...

Jim

I think if you were to know just an inkling of Jim's personality, you would see the circumstance in a different light. Each time I visit Stage 4 to be with Jim/Jarred, Jim takes the time to make sure the cigars don't bother his guests. When people have any slight hesitation to say whether it bothers them or not, Jim is the first to insist on putting the cigar out.

Even if you don't care for someone's policies and how he conducts himself at his own business headquarters, I think the least thing that one could do is show a hint of respect...

 

[Brad Webb]

I think if you were to know just an inkling of Jim's personality, you would see the circumstance in a different light. Each time I visit Stage 4 to be with Jim/Jarred, Jim takes the time to make sure the cigars don't bother his guests. When people have any slight hesitation to say whether it bothers them or not, Jim is the first to insist on putting the cigar out.

Even if you don't care for someone's policies and how he conducts himself at his own business headquarters, I think the least thing that one could do is show a hint of respect...

Jim already apologized for the Cigar incident earlier in the thread. That should be the end of it. No need to pile on Mr. Duran.

I don't think he was trying to disrespectful to anyone. It's very difficult to be diplomatic when one is offering honest criticism. It's hard to write and give your opinion about something you didn't like without sounding like you are trashing it. Most of us never even learn how to give true constructive criticism, and even fewer of us learn how to take it. The last thing this thread needs is for people to start bashing each other and making things personal. That is going to make people afraid to post their honest opinions about the class because they will be afraid of backlash.

I didn't take the class, but I wanted to. I'm very interested in hearing what people have to say about it. So far nothing I've heard has discouraged me from wanting to sign up the next time.

 

[Jannard]

If our personalities were completely normal and politically correct... we would never have had the balls to build this camera program in the 1st place. I get that some want us/me "to act normal" in public. While it is completely against my nature to do that... I have learned that I need to respect others and be myself somewhere besides REDucation. I have to say that the very last thing on earth I am going to do is be someone else. But I fully understand that I can do that outside of a closed room at an event that people are paying for. My presence is really not needed at REDucation. I have nothing to offer. My contribution to our customers is gunslinging and setting a program in motion that others would faint over thinking about. All good here...

Jim

 

[AnthonyFlores]

My presence is really not needed at REDucation. I have nothing to offer. My contribution to our customers is gunslinging and setting a program in motion that others would faint over thinking about. All good here...

Jim

Hmmmm, I hope you don't mean this. I think that's one of the coolest things about Reducation is that you hang around and speak a bit -- I mean, I only got 10 seconds to speak with you at NAB and wish I could have heard more. Sure, this forum is great but nothing like hearing things directly from the man himself. Please reconsider Jim. Yes, your primary contribution is vision, glunslinging and driving the program, but just like Apple customers bond with and are inspired Jobs -- we Redusers really get a lot out of hearing from you. The difference is that with Apple, the best we get are video keynotes -- you actually show up at NAB, Red Studio events and classes in person. That's awesome, Jim. Cigar or no cigars, please don't change that. It means a lot to us.

 

[Max Kaiser]

I took the last two days of the classes, and also paid for one of my company's directors from Hand Crank Films, Chris Koser, to come with me. We flew all the way from our little town of Bellingham, WA, and came for the advanced cinematography class.

Pretty much right after Peter Holland said we were going to have 11 people to a camera I burned out of the cinematography class, and was very happy to hear from Brian that we could jump over to Michael Cioni's post class. I'm not going to go on about the advanced cinematography class since my feelings, and my colleagues, about it are covered above by everyone else. I will second that Peter was a cool guy and did the best he could with a wonky setup.

As for Cioni's class: what a revelation. My mind was blown for two days. We've been a RED house for nearly 3 years and we're changing everything now thanks to his teaching. I'll will save a fortune and have a much better post situation because of what I learned, and will actually be ready for my EPIC when it arrives, to boot. My head is still ringing with the things he told us.

I was so excited in Michael's class I was literally emailing my peeps back home with everything that was coming our way. The value of learning workflow, gear, etc. from someone deep in the trenches in THE most professional films being made out there (Social Network, Pirates, Spidey to name only a few recents) was absolutely priceless - worth the cost of going a few times over.

Michael was incredibly patient with my much less sophisticated questions and workflows, and was so GENEROUS with his time before after, and during class. He wasn't afraid to call it like it is on somethings about REDs, etc., and he always shot straight on everything he discussed. He didn't patronize you because you didn't have a Pablo, and he worked with you to understand what you could do with very, very little - and a RED.

THEN to boot we got to go to Light - Iron and see an incredibly well thought out facility, get a very large amount of time being shown around and having all of our questions answered by the fabulous staff there (on a SATURDAY) - and, if you can believe this, we get to sit in on some personal time with the colorist of The Social Network seeing exactly how he did that, and again having all of our questions answered.

For someone putting together my own facility up north in the boondocks, this was all too much to have hoped for.

Everyone was as chill as could be, at Light - Iron, and at RED.

And this brings me to my final note on the experience of being at RED itself. As outsiders, working pretty far off the grid, we at Hand Crank Films have always been a bit weary of the RED attitude as we felt it was sometimes expressed on these boards. It can feel a bit exclusive.

After last week, I can tell we were dead wrong. It is sort of like that thing where you read an email one way in your head, and it wasn't at all what the person meant in tone. EVERYONE was amazing from the moment Brian ushered us into the sold out open house without a thought when we forget to get tix, to the treatment in the RED store where I'm picking out some tasty new glass.

I honestly couldn't disagree with Tim (I think it was) talking about Jim's cigar, etc. From cigars flying, to the cars coming into the lot on fire (hilarious, you have to experience Jim and Jarred getting to work) to the impromptu helicopter flying around the lot it was the most refreshing, most uninhibited, most the-reason-we-all-got-into-this-in-the-first-place my partner and I had ever seen. That all on top of what these guys are achieving technically with their cameras (they do have some reason to have some hubris) and it was flat out something everyone should go and experience. As a small fledging company ourselves, we actually talked on the plane home a lot about what we could learn from RED's corporate style and why sometimes, knowing who you are and flexing that bit can be a very good thing in this world where it seems everyone wants you to bend from just doing your very best work all the time - even though in the end, that's why they keep coming back.

Please don't change a thing!

Finally, I will end by offering a possible starting off point to think of fixing the cinematography class. Cioni said something that rang true at one point - if you know the post of RED, then you can REALLY know how to shoot the RED. I think the AC class could benefit highly from being one day of lecture from the serious pros like Peter about real world issues that come up, and how the RED helps us solve them, or strategies to solve them with the RED, and why you do what you do with the camera in order to offer the best post experience. Shooting and post with this camera must be considered much more enter-twined than in traditional setups. The second day would then be groups of 3 to a camera going out and trying out all of the stuff from the lecture, and then maybe an hour at the end where we post a bit in REDCINE-X, but we could all do that at home, too.

I, for one, will be sending more of my directors and post folks to this in the future, if just so they can see that there are kindred spirits out there who are striving for the best and not afraid to break a few eggs (and yes, cause a few delays) along the way.

Thanks again,
Max Kaiser
Hand Crank Films

 

[Christopher Barrett]

Having used my R1 for several months now, I really didn't expect to get a whole lot out of the program. Nevertheless, I signed on for five days. I assumed that the process of familiarizing the class with the camera, workflow and best practices was going to feel somewhat redundant to me. I was optimistic, though. I knew there were elements I didn't really understand, menus and buttons that still baffled me and sound…. OMG SOUND!!! Yes, I knew there was still much I could learn.

Though the initial class (having to cater to multiple skill levels) did leave me hungry for more, I enjoyed being able to share my knowledge with the less experienced. Shooting with our breakout group was a lot of fun and learning the ins and outs of sync sound, along with jamming timecode was invaluable.

Ted is definitely proud of Red's accomplishments and you can't slight a man for being passionate about his work. I think it's safe to assume that most attendees are already among the faithful, though, and that time could be better spent on interactive pursuits. We're all 4k converts, right?! Some things that I believe would strengthen the program are: even more time spent with RedCine-X (we got it in Advanced Post, but everyone needs it!), greater structure during shooting (our group was inefficient with time…) and more instruction in shooting practices (People seemed to have difficulty with exposure…(GoalPosts, People!) wasting their shooting time and we could of used a little more info about focus, DoF). The process was… cover the basics, throw them out there, let them make mistakes, discover and learn from the mistakes and then go shoot again with the lessons learned. This sounds really good on paper but I think there was still enough confusion on the second round that we floundered a bit. I'm not quite sure how to finesse that process… more TA's? As for gear, I would just try to make sure that every camera has a mattebox, ND filters and an EVF or at the very least a hood for the monitor.

Obviously this is an evolving program and it's clear that Red responds to customer feedback.

Advanced Post? Man, I could barely keep up with Michael and that was awesome. The dude from Chicago knows his shit and I learned so much in this section! I knew Post was my weakest area and being able to target this alone was worth the price of the full five days. I've recently wrapped up shooting a short that I'm really psyched about and have held off doing any post work until completing this course. Now I can't wait to get back to the footage. The biggest problem is, I'm going home with a very long shopping list.

I can totally understand the complaints I've read so far, many of them are valid and I know that Ted will take them to heart. And Jim, I loved having you around. Nothing could speak more to the way Red is democratizing cinematography than having the man himself popping in to chat once in a while

Cheers,
Chris

 

[Justin O'Neill]

We flew all the way from our little town of Bellingham, WA, and came for the advanced cinematography class.

Oh man, wish I knew you guys were there! I was over at the cinematography session. I grew up in Bellingham and we now have a production company up in Seattle. Glad you enjoyed Michael's class...he's kind of my idol but don't tell him that.

 

[Jannard]

Apparently my cigar smoking is an issue. I am not likely to stop so I guess that if some have an issue with it... I shouldn't hang around the presentations. No worries on my end. Really. Duran has made it clear to me that this is a problem... I'm good with that. Our efforts to democratize the industry have nothing to do with the REDucation process. Two separate issues.

Jim

And Jim, I loved having you around. Nothing could speak more to the way Red is democratizing cinematography than having the man himself popping in to chat once in a while

Cheers,
Chris

 

[TedRed]

Now we are talking the comments I'm reading in the past page or two are from the heart and valid on the "learn and continue to improve front" I've learned that maybe people get what we've accomplished so far much more than I give credit for - and perhaps just pointing people to the shot on RED page on our website, instead of my 30 to 40 min pep speech before we get into the meet of the class would do the job... got it... loud and clear. (but I still think it's cool to show the very first RED camera in the wooden box behind the scenes vids is worth that 3 minutes... get's the class into the right frame of mind to have some fun and let loose)

And yes My buddy Michael Cioni is fantastic on the post side - he loves to educate and evangelize, just like me (I had to rein him in during the class to get to the meat of the ipad dailies part of his talk before we ran out of time... and a good thing, since that and getting the QT movie from the gang in NYC via their RedCineX export and playing it on the projector screen for our group in Hollywood were some of the highlights of the class for me.)

keep the comments coming as you like... I imagine most of the class is recovering, enjoying the holiday weekend, etc. and we will hear from them when they are back home and settled in.

If you want to see the motion pix version of the class photo (since it was shot on the EPIC it's both a still and a movie, let me know and I'll put it up on Vimeo when I'm back from the country and on a high speed internet line again.

+ Ted

+ Ted

 

[Joseph Hutson]

One thing I would like to say regarding the REDucation. There is a reason why people who went to Michael Cioni's "RED POST PRODUCTION" class are raving about it. It's THAT good. Seriously.

Not only does Michael know workflow. Not only does he know RED. But he is an eloquent orator. Add him with Ted, and we have a lot of opportunity for laughter. So many times I cracked up.

With such a fun week of REDucation, you guys don't know how pumped I am to come back for RED Camp!

 

[Steve Dent]

If I have the chance, hopefully soon, to come to LA for Reducation and I didn't get the "full Jannard" I would be sorely disappointed.

I applaud and respect the participant's right to criticize as he wishes, but as a Parisian, I take my own right to laugh and ridicule his decidedly North American opinion that the founder (and walking camera encyclopedia) of the company shouldn't have been there because his cigar smoke bothered him. Argggh!

 

[Joseph Hutson]

And yes My buddy Michael Cioni is fantastic on the post side - he loves to educate and evangelize, just like me (I had to rein him in during the class to get to the meat of the ipad dailies part of his talk before we ran out of time...

+ Ted

Hehe. Which is why the two of you are such a potent mix for laughter.

I think that in the future, Michael's 2-day class should be close to a priority for those who come to REDucation. A lot of stuff that is being taught in that class will be considered "on set production" as a normal thing within the next 2-3 years I would assume.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Okay now I am jealous and sad I wasn't there... ;(

Can we do one in Rome? We'll provide the facilities...

 

[Samuel Haskell]

The Week at RED Studios Hollywood was spectacular. I will attend this event in the future any time it is offered.

Aside from all the hands on experience, highly intelligent and capable team of teachers/volunteers, and the additional exposure to so much state of the art technology and equipment, contacts, free food, Peter Holland, unimpeded access to RED's facilities, helicopter cam rig etc...

The most amazing part by far was sitting in the front row listening to TED articulately explain the genius behind RED Mysterium technology and how exactly everything works within the camera's microarchitecture.

I was particularly impressed by Brian Henderson and the masterfully executed program he developed for us as REDucation, he is truly a sophisticated technician and digital guru. To be able to watch that mindblowing footage in the private theatre he set up was a breathtaking sight to behold.

I am so grateful to have had the privilege of listening to and learning from TED most of all... and Michael Cioni as well(in my honest opinion both are literally Gods of digital), this was more than I could have ever hoped for and such a critical reason behind why I feel so invested in RED now more than ever. Stephen Lovett is also a remarkable man with an overwhelming knowledge base of the RED Digital Cinema Camera Philosophy and technique, he is a very skilled DP and his background in computers makes him all the more valuable, in my opinion. My group leader mauricio during the cinematography portion was also highly capable and very knowledgeable about colour science, waveform, and all things Digital...

Also, Robert Kennedy is so incredibly bright and gifted in the field of sound as well, such a valuable asset to any production and he was literally right there explaining how to do what he gets paid the big bucks to do, such a privilege to learn from him. All for such a reasonable price I was so pleased with how much I actually took away from this entire experience for the money, it was entirely worth it.

Thank you so much for making all this possible. If the tickets were 2x the price or even 3x the price it would still be worth every cent because of this insight into the core of RED's technology, meeting Jim and TED, as well as all the other brilliant minds who signed up for REDucation, was truly as priceless experience.

It is no wonder to me that so many great minds have all come together in support and commitment to RED, the most integral part of the New Cinema Movement taking place in every facet of the world's media. Thank you very much indeed.

Sincerely,
Sam Haskell Jr.

 

[Samuel Haskell]

Thanks for the post Joseph. I have always liked you. Don't worry about me... I learn something every day. And I take notes to remember what I learned...

Jim

Jim you are a remarkable man, to be able to stand in the same room with you or next to your Aston Martin was worth the price of the whole event by itself. As a 24 year old film school graduate, it was an Honor.

...Sam Haskell Jr.