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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Redrock microRemote?

I used the fingerwheel once on my rig. I circled some tape around my arm post, to thicken the post, where I attached the fingerwheel. The tape became solid enough, once I tighten the fingerwheel screw, and it worked pretty well.
 
Hello

I have a few questions about the micro remotesystem. I called the phone number listed on the web site but no one was there to pick up.

1-The focus throw on my Nikon 200-400 is approx. 360 degrees. The focus ring circumference on my Nikon 200-400 is approx. 33.5 centimeters. The size D lens gear listed on the site fits up to 32 centermeters. Is there enough room to fit the size D gear on to my Nikon 200-400 lens and maintain a 360 degree focus throw?

2-The focus throw on my 200-400 is approx. 360 degrees. Can your product be adjusted to cover the full throw of this Nikon 200-400 lens or will it be limited to 270 degrees?

3-Is the product in stock and available for shipping now?

4-I would appreciate any input from current users of this product.

Thanks
 
Has anyone used this and the Birger/Impero system and care to compare and contrast? Thanks.

Still waiting on the iPhone app for the Redrock btw. That looks really exciting.
 
Layi B said:
Has anyone used this and the Birger/Impero system and care to compare and contrast? Thanks.

Still waiting on the iPhone app for the Redrock btw. That looks really exciting.
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The iPhone system was promised like 3 years ago... a lot of us waited and gave up. Cool piece of vaporware though. :)
 
Hi Bill,

I figured I'll answer your questions in a call and response form,

Bill Martz said:
1-The focus throw on my Nikon 200-400 is approx. 360 degrees. The focus ring circumference on my Nikon 200-400 is approx. 33.5 centimeters. The size D lens gear listed on the site fits up to 32 centermeters. Is there enough room to fit the size D gear on to my Nikon 200-400 lens and maintain a 360 degree focus throw?
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I have not tried that lens specifically with microLensGears but it sounds like it is too large for our D-ring to support. However, the Torque motor in the microRemote bundle is .6 cinema pitch, so alternative industry standard lens gear solutions will work as well.

Bill Martz said:
2-The focus throw on my 200-400 is approx. 360 degrees. Can your product be adjusted to cover the full throw of this Nikon 200-400 lens or will it be limited to 270 degrees?
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You will have the full throw of all of your lenses no matter how long or short the rotation of the focus ring is. What the remote does is expands or contracts the rotation of your lenses so that you have a more manageable focus pull. For example, Canon L Series Lens with 40 degrees of rotation = 270 degrees of rotation on the microRemote after calibration. Macro Lens with over 360 degrees of rotation = 270 degrees of rotation on the microRemote after calibration. You can even calibrate a smaller range of your lens (say 5ft-30ft) and that will become 270 degrees on your control unit.

Bill Martz said:
3-Is the product in stock and available for shipping now?
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We've been shipping the microRemote in large numbers, but as the orders keep growing, we're now at an expected 30 day lead time from when you place your order.

Bill Martz said:
4-I would appreciate any input from current users of this product.
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This thread has got a few hands on reviews from microRemote users. We've also compiled reviews from some early adopters, many of which are members of the REDuser community here: https://www.facebook.com/microRemote/notes
 
This definitely gets my thumbs up. Solid system.
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I used it recently on a c300 with Zeiss ZF primes. I have a lot of experience with the Bartec system, but have never used a Preston or other brand. I was impressed with the feel and build quality of the hand wheel controller. It has a nice dampened feel and has a good solid weight. It was very responsive and the batteries in the hand wheel last for days. What really impressed me was the ease of calibration, super fast and intuitive. I would be curious to use this on an old stiff cine lens and see if the torque holds up, my guess is that it would. I also had heard on another review that with super small and super slow pulls you get some stair stepping. I can confirm that this is true, however, since you can remap any distance to a full rotation maybe this would help? Not sure. But in practical use, I don't see this being much of an issue at all. Would I buy it? If I was ready to buy right now, yes I would. I would love to put it up against an Optitron and a RT Motion system. Maybe someone here will do this. The build quality is great, the cables are Lemo connectors, and the receiver is tiny. Overall a big win for Redrock I'd say. I know they have to do some reworking of the iPhone controller because of the new lighting port, and I also know it is still definitely in the works. I could tell you more, but then I'd have to kill you...
 
I will also add, i have no idea if Redrock is planning on making any smart canon adapter to use this controller with electronic canon lenses and no separate lens motor. This is the great thing that the Optitron brings, the ability to use real motors on cine lenses or use their smart mount and no motor with canon lenses. Way cool. Just something to keep in mind….
 
Jake Wilganowski said:
I also had heard on another review that with super small and super slow pulls you get some stair stepping. I can confirm that this is true, however, since you can remap any distance to a full rotation maybe this would help? Not sure. But in practical use, I don't see this being much of an issue at all.
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The resolution of the system is my biggest concern. I often need to do exceptionally small pulls, like the width of the witness mark. Redrock has been very vague in answering my questions about how many points are resolved around the lens or exactly how precise the system is. Their responses to me have been:

"It's digital" - which tells me nothing

"People are using it on actual TV shows" - Have you seen what passes for TV these days?

"The specs are proprietary" - but Preston, Arri and others publish this info.

I would love to hear from someone who has used a Microremote on commercials with macro, super-precise focus needs. Anyone?

Redrock, if the specs are good, why not give us some actual numbers? The 270 degrees of rotation on the hand set corresponds to how many 'locations' on the lens? What is the minimum increment your motors can turn? In an all-digital system these numbers should be easy to figure out. Would more expensive motors from other manufacturers give us more resolution or is it limited by the system? Reply by PM if you need to, but this info should be public.
 
Agreed, everyone would love to know these things. I wish I had had the time to really test it out. We were using it for "normal" pulls and it worked great. I will definitely test more soon though as it is just sitting at my friends house at the moment, so I can get my hands on it when I have some time. I'm particularly interested in the motor switching idea also. It is frustrating they won't give numbers...
 
The Redrock Torque motor's resolution is 12,800 locations per revolution of the drive gear which equals 320 locations per gear tooth. That is really high, so I don’t think resolution is the limiting factor. I don’t think you will be getting more resolution from more expensive motors either, what you may get though is more torque. However, the price for more torque isn’t linear. You might get 10% more torque, but it may cost you 2-3x the price.

For Jake, I’d recommend he just dial down the microRemote’s gain setting for a smoother pull. This kind of thing is exactly what this feature is designed for – higher gain means faster response for things like snap focus, lower gain is for slow pulls where smoothness is the priority. You can set it for your personal preference or shot requirements.

Also Brent, if you're doing a lot of work on just the macro end of your lenses, you can also gain a lot more control and finesse by calibrating your remote over just the range of the lens you are using (as opposed to the full lens' range of infinity to close focus). That smaller portion of the lens will then be mapped to the full resolution of the microRemote.
 
Loren Simons said:
The Redrock Torque motor's resolution is 12,800 locations per revolution of the drive gear which equals 320 locations per gear tooth.
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Thank you! That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. I really want to get my hands on one!

Does anyone in Toronto have one yet???
 
Only took a few months to get that information! Haha... useful nonetheless, I suppose.
 
Loren Simons said:
The Redrock Torque motor's resolution is 12,800 locations per revolution of the drive gear which equals 320 locations per gear tooth. That is really high, so I don’t think resolution is the limiting factor. I don’t think you will be getting more resolution from more expensive motors either, what you may get though is more torque. However, the price for more torque isn’t linear. You might get 10% more torque, but it may cost you 2-3x the price.
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What is the exact torque of the RedRock Motor? I don't see it listed on the website.
 
Scotty Baker said:
What is the exact torque of the RedRock Motor? I don't see it listed on the website.
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I was informed that the torque on the RR motor is .6Nm which is slightly less than the smaller of Heden's motors the M21VE which has .75Nm.
Not sure how that compares to the M-One.
 
So are there any real-world reviews of this unit? I've searched like crazy but nothing too concrete out there. Mostly concerned about radio interference/losing connection and of course just general performance. Looking for a wireless solution asap.
 
+1 on this, any reviews? I am saving for the finger wheel system now to add the remote later.

Btw, I was assured the remote can be added later, but told no price since its not currently sold desperately...
 
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