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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red1 sound mike ... advice welcomed

Check out the new Rode NTG-3 also. I listened to a demo between it and the 416 - hard to tell much difference in almost every circumstance. The NTG-3 sounds great.
 
I'm probably going to run with the NTG-2 when I can get a scarlet, thanks for all your advice ppl.
BTW - I love working with apple(silicons) Color, is there a thread for cheap monitoring solutions?
 
JimPress said:
We use the (generally poorly regarded) ME66, but it's great for our work. For *excellent* impartial mic reviews see anything from Ty Ford; and this brilliant article at Ken Stone's: http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/right_mic_brockett.html. Of course Bruce Allen will have a view...
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Im not quite sure why the ME66 is poorly regarded, it is bright but that's one thing that can be useful at times. Its not my prefered mic but it used interchangable capsules if that's appropriate for the work in hand.

One member mentioned Gefell mics. I have a several of of them, various models, they are great in their own place and the M7 capsuel mics are by far prefered over the neumann U87 equvilent, they are available at a much lower price than the U87. I use them as as a prefered commentary mic.

The Gefell MV691/M73 gun mic is a mixed bag, its certainly very bright and is a very long gun. Id not use it or film work though. They can found very inexpensivly and find favour for micing snare drums which they are very good with a decent preamp. On reason there are many around it the Stasi used them for eves dropping on unsuspecting people, anyway these days they are better used by drummers. For searching for this kit try ebay.de thoug beware that some mics have duff capsules. If any one is serious about using these mics mail me and Ill send you some links for suppliers of services and working mics.

The other mic thats not been mentioned is the Sennheiser 435 which is a shorter version for the 415. Its getting on a bit now age wise. Its a hyper cardiod mic that is useful where as short gun is too long. I makes a good on camera mic, not that any mic should be on a camera anyway. Most 435's are T powered, infact im not sure if there ever was a phantom version made. If you find one in good condition its worth considering.

Dave
UK
 
NTG-2 & R1 ... but I must be missing something !

NTG-2 & R1 ... but I must be missing something !

Ok ok ... so I have a NTG-2 fresh out of the box ... and REMEMBER audio is very new to me ... so be gentle :wink5:

Aside from switching on audio (for CH1), sticking in an AA-battery, 48v phamton power not selected ... what else do I have to do to get a reasonable level recorded by the R1 ? It is recording, but the levels indicator is wayyyyyyyyyyyy low and on playback of the clip, the sound is clearly not the level is should be. Do I need some sort of 'amplification in line somewhere ?

Remember I'm not in need of a super audio solution ... my sound gathering requirment is very much for my own private / home use ;-)

Cheers ...

PS : RedOne has had the h/w upgrade (which includes the new audio board according to the Red report)

EDIT : ohhhhhhh ... I see ... found it http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32652 ... silly me for not looking in the 'VIDEO' section (obvious really NOT !)
 
For a 1 and only mic situation, and those that want to go quality, I'd actually have you strongly consider NOT getting a shotgun. Although shotguns have become the default microphone for video/film production, from a soundman's perspective, they are often times not the appropriate mic for a given situation, and in the hands on non-professionals, tend to amplify poor handling technique.

Instead, consider one of the popular cardioid or hypercardioid designs. Not only are then typically cheaper than a comparable shotgun, but smaller and less bulky for your kit.

My hypercardioid of choice is the MKH-8050 which blends very nicely with my MKH-60.
 
Rowland said:
Check out the new Rode NTG-3 also. I listened to a demo between it and the 416 - hard to tell much difference in almost every circumstance. The NTG-3 sounds great.
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If you are not a sound professional, the NTG-3 is the more appropriate choice compared to the 416. Sound professionals need to have their gear lists approved by production at which point noses will sniff at the Rode name where they embrace the Sennheiser name, but from a pure performance perspective, the NTG-3 = 416.
 
Tom Visser said:
For a 1 and only mic situation, and those that want to go quality, I'd actually have you strongly consider NOT getting a shotgun. Although shotguns have become the default microphone for video/film production, from a soundman's perspective, they are often times not the appropriate mic for a given situation, and in the hands on non-professionals, tend to amplify poor handling technique.

Instead, consider one of the popular cardioid or hypercardioid designs. Not only are then typically cheaper than a comparable shotgun, but smaller and less bulky for your kit.

My hypercardioid of choice is the MKH-8050 which blends very nicely with my MKH-60.
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Tom ... as I'm no sound guru (and do not wish to be one) I cannot comment on your suggestion ! Once I set up the correct input level (32 to 35 seems just about correct) the recordings I'm getting from the NTG-2 sound fine to me. The price level of the NTG-2 is perfect for my budget ... many of the Sennheiser suggestions are way over the top (in terms of cost).
I repeat ... for MY needs ... I'm a happy camper.

Cheers ...
 
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