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RED TOUCH 5.0" LCD -VS- DP6-SDI — 5.6" Field Monitor

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Why should I prefer RED TOUCH 5.0" LCD over DP6-SDI — 5.6" Field Monitor?
Price is more and the resolution is less compared to the DP6. Has anyone used any other monitor? Please advise.

Also I am considering getting the 256 Redmag, mainly to save $600 over the 64gb pack. Has anyone faced problems with the 256mag.

Thanks in Advance
Ravi



I have gathered, made quick edits and listed out the suggestions from different users:

1. Only way to control the camera unless you have a side handle or REDMote.

2. Touch-control menu access AND touch-screen focus control are plus points

3. The touch is powered by the brain, you will need a battery for the DP6

4. Checked by a user on the Epic - the only way to control the audio levels was the touch screen, You can get to the audio input screen with the redmote or side handle but the side handle and the redmote dials did not adjust the levels.
He does not know if this is also the case on the scarlet.

5. The RED Touch is a touchscreen (like an iPad or iPhone) that communicates back to the camera allowing you to change settings on the camera. A Dp6 is just an SDI (or HDMI) monitor that does not 'communicate' back to the camera.

6. If you want the easiest way to control the camera (including turning over 10 feet away by double tapping it) as well as judging focus get the Touchscreen.



1. Outside the 5.0 Touch LCD Red monitor was near impossible to see and so low of resolution that critical focus was very hard for bad eyes. If you can get a side handle, I would go with the DP6

2. DP6 is definitely the way to go for focus. The color is very close between the two, and the 5" is a great image for its size. If I didn't have the DP6 it would be a lot harder to check focus exclusively off the 5"

Download the EPIC manual - Not exactly the same as the Scarlet, but we've been led to believe that they will operate the same way. Lot's of info to digest about what the monitor will help you do as far as exposure control etc.


Conclusion: If you think you will be missing out on some features offered by the RedTouch get Red Monitor
If Focus and resolution is important than other features of Red monitor get DP6.
 
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Thanks again for your input Stacey!
Yes, I will get the Side handle but was thinking in terms of Red Touch Versus the DP6-SDI monitor.
Wanted to know if there is a $300 worth difference between the 2 monitors.
 
Man - extra $300 gets you a touch-control menu access AND touch-screen focus control...too cheap to pass IMHO.

Stu Aull
Alaska
 
Stu, I was considering the resolution on DP6 (1280 X 800) vs Red (1024×600). And I am not too fancy about the touch screen mode but good to have though. Are there any other features that Red has advantage over the DP6?
Now having to worry about the extra battery and cables is something to rethink about.

Thanks
R
 
Ravi K said:
Thanks again for your input Stacey!
Yes, I will get the Side handle but was thinking in terms of Red Touch Versus the DP6-SDI monitor.
Wanted to know if there is a $300 worth difference between the 2 monitors.
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Also, it's worth noting that the side handle is on backorder so it's possible that some of us will receive a package without one. The Redmote is on backorder too. If that were the case then the LCD would be the only way to control the image.
 
Nick Wernham said:
Also, it's worth noting that the side handle is on backorder so it's possible that some of us will receive a package without one. The Redmote is on backorder too. If that were the case then the LCD would be the only way to control the image.
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Do you mean the camera can be controlled by a 3rd party monitor without the necessity of Redmote or side handle? ?
 
Pretty sure he meant you can control the camera via the Red touchscreen...
 
Yeah, thought so.
But in the Red store the side handle seems to be in stock but not the Redmote.

Can anyone please let me know the superior qualities of Red monitor in comparison to the 3rd party monitors. Just saw the resolution to be 800 X 480 for the Touch screen.
 
I don't care for the 5.0 Touch LCD Red monitor for anything but controlling the camera. I now enjoy the Bomb EVF (Love IT!!) and control the camera with the side handle or REDMote. I plan on getting the SmallHD DP6 HD-SDI soon.

I found that outside the 5.0 Touch LCD Red monitor was near impossible to see and so low of resolution that critical focus was very hard for me (bad eyes). If you can get a side handle, I would go with the DP6. my 2 cents...
 
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Just get them both.

There are a lot of situations when a director doesn't have a dedicated monitor and any kind of video village at all, so one monitor for your DP, and one for your AC/director. I know that EVF is more preferable for some DPs but from what I constantly see on sets it's used very rare especially when you are in a controlled environment in terms of light (not on a sunny street).
 
For those who have used both dp6 and red touch, how does the color reproduction accuracy compare? also, does lower resolution on red touch allow you to judge focus adequately? i own dp6 and really like it but have no experience with red touch lcd.
 
Does the red touch 5.0" have a built in waveform monitor?
 
Jason Rudd said:
Does the red touch 5.0" have a built in waveform monitor?
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Download the EPIC manual - Not exactly the same as the Scarlet, but we've been led to believe that they will operate the same way. Lot's of info to digest about what the monitor will help you do as far as exposure control etc.
 
Just to confirm....

Red Pro 5.6inch that was used on the Red-MX is 100% COMPATIBLE with the Scarlet and would plug into REd proprietary port and would still free up your hdmi port for an additional monitor??
 
Ravi K said:
Also I am considering getting the 256 Redmag, mainly to save $600 over the 64gb pack. Has anyone faced problems with the 256mag.

Ravi
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Drop one 64GB card in a lake and you lose 1/4 of your footage (not really, it's probably fine but you'll need a diver).
Drop one 256GB card in a lake and you lose 4/4 of your footage.

Similarly you can be handing off footage to your editor or transcoding with 1 card while the other is recording. I wouldn't go with 1 card if at all possible.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
Drop one 64GB card in a lake and you lose 1/4 of your footage (not really, it's probably fine but you'll need a diver).
Drop one 256GB card in a lake and you lose 4/4 of your footage.

Similarly you can be handing off footage to your editor or transcoding with 1 card while the other is recording. I wouldn't go with 1 card if at all possible.
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Well I will make sure not to go near a lake with the SSD's. ; )
But what if I am away from the lake, what could go wrong? Did anyone face problems within their SSD's, eliminating external factors. When you think it's safe in the camera or in the Red station or SSD case

I want to take as many suggestions as possible before committing. I will definitely aim to get another SSD within a few months.

Appreciate your Advise
Ravi
 
Hello Ravi

Last time I checked on the Epic the only way to control the audio levels was the touch screen, You can get to the audio input screen with the redmote or side handle but the side handle and the redmote dials did not adjust the levels.
I do not know if this is also the case on the scarlet.

I use 5 of the 256GB cards and have never had a problem. For long format interviews the 256GB cards are great not having to change cards.
 
Hi Craig, Thanks for your reply.
Do you mean we can't control the audio levels from 3rd party monitors? By the way right now I am considering only the LCD monitors not the redmote. Nice to know that red monitor has additional functionalities in comparison to the redmote.

Good to hear that you never had a problem with the 256GB cards! Will wait a day or two and then order for one.
 
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