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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red Support for Adobe

Thanks Deanan. That was quick.:umm:
 
Deanan,
Forget what I said about asking developers 'when is it ready?'

When will the Adobe plugin be ready?....the last indication we had was days/week.

Will it be launched with next two weeks or 1 month or 2 months?

answering any of these questions and you will be provided with eternal happiness plus 16 virgins....etc, etc.

No answering will ensure Jim is your boss for eternity!

Over to you....

Dave
 
david farland said:
....the last indication we had was days/week.

Will it be launched with next two weeks or 1 month or 2 months?
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Yes, we've know about this for over two months now...

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16967

...which is greatly appreciated. We can plan ahead. We were getting regular updates tell us how things were going. But this recent and extended "radio silence" (seems like nothing for a month now other than yesterday's "no news" post) is killing us. It would be great to get some idea where it's at. It doesn't matter how long it takes as it's going to be worth every second. But it's been so close for so long now. Just look through this thread... very tantalizing, but the recent lack of feedback is starting to get frustrating.
 
This was Jim's post on july the 30th 2008

Within a week, RED R3D files will open natively in CS3 Premiere Pro and After Effects.

Jim

AND OF COURSE THIS IS HIS SIGNATURE ON THIS FORUM!!!
__________________
"Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..."

So... lets just wait patiently.
 
estebanred said:
So... lets just wait patiently.
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Wrong information is more confusing & damaging than no information and Red are being asked to remedy this and previous 'incorrect' news releases.

And don't ask me to be patient!
Dave
 
estebanred said:
This was Jim's post on july the 30th 2008

Within a week, RED R3D files will open natively in CS3 Premiere Pro and After Effects.

Jim

AND OF COURSE THIS IS HIS SIGNATURE ON THIS FORUM!!!
__________________
"Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..."

So... lets just wait patiently.
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He said "files will open natively" he didn't say "within a week - we'll release the plug-in"
 
david farland said:
Wrong information is more confusing & damaging than no information and Red are being asked to remedy this and previous 'incorrect' news releases.

And don't ask me to be patient!
Dave
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Ok, we won't ask you to be patient but please understand that we a huge number of high priority items, some visible and some not. All these impact how long it takes to get the Adobe plugin out which is also high priority.

The plugin is taking longer than anticipated for various reasons including doing major changes to get the speed up. You can hold Rob and myself responsible for the missed dates, not Jim.
 
Thanks Deanan....I understand the development lifecycle well and have all respect for developers/you guys. I was just asking for a correction on the previous statements and if the answer is either we no longer know
or it's not our privilege to reveal it...that's 100% acceptable.
Dave,
 
david farland said:
Thanks Deanan....I understand the development lifecycle well and have all respect for developers/you guys. I was just asking for a correction on the previous statements and if the answer is either we no longer know
or it's not our privilege to reveal it...that's 100% acceptable.
Dave,
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We've often posted updates/corrections repeatedly when we thought we were closer. Based on the previous assumptions that were incorrect, the plugin turned out to be trickier than we thought. We will provide an update when we know for sure that we have a solid release date.
 
I just "time-traveled" thru this thread ... missed it completely (oops) ... very interesting to see the DATES next to each statement .....

went to an Adobe demo of CS 4 like a week ago ... asked the adobe guy about native r3d-support for AE and PR ... he hadn't even HEARD about it .....
(he was a PS/AI-specialist ...)
 
Offhollywood said:
He said "files will open natively" he didn't say "within a week - we'll release the plug-in"
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hahahaahahaa are you a lawyer?? Touché///:ninja:

Deanan said:
Ok, we won't ask you to be patient but please understand that we a huge number of high priority items, some visible and some not. All these impact how long it takes to get the Adobe plugin out which is also high priority.

The plugin is taking longer than anticipated for various reasons including doing major changes to get the speed up. You can hold Rob and myself responsible for the missed dates, not Jim.
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Deanan, I dont meant to held no one responsible!!
I just got carried away with Jim's announcement that within a week you guys (not us) could open the files natively. hehe Just kidding.. I know you are working your asses of in order to get everything up and running. The thing is that we are really having a lot of issues with workflow, red cine is crashing and with a lot of bugs and I think that once this plug in is available no one will use the RA or RC and that why no updates are available on either of the two sides (besides the audio update). So please don't take it personal its only that our workflow is f**k up by the fact that red cine is not in optimal condition, red alert works for some things and not others, and the scratch is ridiculously expensive. The plug in seems to be the answer for the redolution.
 
estebanred said:
hahahaahahaa are you a lawyer?? Touché///:ninja:
So please don't take it personal its only that our workflow is f**k up by the fact that red cine is not in optimal condition, red alert works for some things and not others, and the scratch is ridiculously expensive. The plug in seems to be the answer for the redolution.
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Hey, lets face it:

suboptimal performance is important to red, when it comes to post, to protect their partners.

This has been clearly stated several times here.

Once the technologically more advanced coorps (as cineform, sony, iridas, adobe etc) will be in, the allocation of the 3 software r&d headcounts at red will be hopefully allocated in a, lets say, more relaxed style.

missing in action are:

QT for windows component (>1 year delay)
redrushes for windows (>5 months delay)
redline for windows (>3 months delay)

But on the other hand - a fantatstic camera. just the missing post & workflow make these cams second choice often, no matter regarding their superior image.
 
haha that was funny Luki,

kind of like the presidential debate too much speculation from the sidelines by pundits.
look as long s assimilate is sleeping with adobe and red, we are very excited and optimistic about future workflows.

now if only red will release the beta r3d. plugin even with disabled functions and limitations we will be very happy. from what i have seen so far its very usable. they can update to new and more stable versions when cs4 is released. right now we need the plugin to pay for our red investments.
 
shashbugu said:
Right now we need the plugin to pay for our red investments.
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Very rightly said Shashbugu. At the moment my RED and Dell Percision 8Core system are just a paperweight. Can not do anything till the time we can see real action on timeline.

Hope it will come out soooooooooooooome day.
 
shashbugu said:
now if only red will release the beta r3d. plugin even with disabled functions and limitations we will be very happy. from what i have seen so far its very usable. they can update to new and more stable versions when cs4 is released. right now we need the plugin to pay for our red investments.
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I second this.
We have worked with this kind of software and we can get used to it very easily. Its just a matter of giving us the chance, we could even help :)
 
and oh by the way tell Adobe we will still upgrade to cs4, almost every user has cs3 even if they are an Avid or fcp user. the are some kinds of software you just cant do without, adobe cs series products have become like microsoft office software very essential.
I have always said regardless of price, if you have ever used or seen scratch being used you will be amazed and your jaw will drop. the interface is so straight forward, makes so much sense and runs smoothly and powerfully. dont take my word for it just download redcine. Adobe made a smart choice of collaborating with them.

last thing we need to keep this thread going and get the attention of the decision makers at red, to release the beta for the R3D plug
 
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