Red One to Mysti-X Upgrade question-

[Ryan E. Walters]

I've been doing my best to search as well as read all of the threads that i can, but I have not seen this question yet, nor found an answer. So I was wondering if anyone knew the following:

If I upgrade my Red One to the Mysterium-X sensor for $4,500 do I-
1. Get the larger resolution (5k)?
2. Get the faster frame rates?
3. Get the increased dynamic range?
4. Get the new redcodes?

If not, what do I get for $4,500?

For me, of course I would want all of these with the upgrade. But if I had to choose, this is the order of importance for me-
1. Increased dynamic range
2. New redcodes
3. Faster frame rates
4. Resolution

Anyone have an answer on this, or could point me to a thread that has the answer...

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

No specifics have been given yet.

But it seems we will get more dynamic range and faster reset times for less skew. I wouldn't plan on faster frame rates and higher resolution unless RED decides to offer a more significant upgrade. Faster frame rates would imply an upgrade to much of the internal components, processors, etc.. Higher resolutions will not happen, or at least I don't think they will. As of right now, the Mysterium sensor is 4900x2540. S35 Mysterium X is 5120x2700 and the current RED One internals are not quite giving us the ability to record that full sensor area. Soon 4.5K 2:1 it seems. So I'm expecting roughly the same resolution and format options, just with the benefits the new sensor itself offers.

As for the new REDCODE formats, once again more speculation. We don't even know what the new numbers like 42, 225, 250 and 500 even mean and how they will relate to the RED One, or if they will play a role on the RED One at all.

 

[Ryan E. Walters]

No specifics have been given yet.

But it seems we will get more dynamic range and faster reset times for less skew. I wouldn't plan on faster frame rates and higher resolution unless RED decides to offer a more significant upgrade. Faster frame rates would imply an upgrade to much of the internal components, processors, etc.. Higher resolutions will not happen, or at least I don't think they will. As of right now, the Mysterium sensor is 4900x2540. S35 Mysterium X is 5120x2700 and the current RED One internals are not quite giving us the ability to record that full sensor area. Soon 4.5K 2:1 it seems. So I'm expecting roughly the same resolution and format options, just with the benefits the new sensor itself offers.

As for the new REDCODE formats, once again more speculation. We don't even know what the new numbers like 42, 225, 250 and 500 even mean and how they will relate to the RED One, or if they will play a role on the RED One at all.

Thanks for the reply, and I realize that it is mostly speculation at this point since nothing official has been said.

I suppose that if all I got out of it was more dynamic range I'd be ok with that, as 4.5k is more resolution then I need (Although I'd like a 16:9 ratio instead of 2:1 ...). The new redcode would be killer to have access to, as whatever those numbers mean it sounds like they are at the very least less compressed then the current redcodes...

 

[dVonAllmen]

I agree with your priority list - the only thing that I'm really interested in is increased dynamic range. 4K is about 35mm resolution, and framerate is cool but it's a trick pony, not the workhorse. The only thing keeping Red One from being just as good as film is dynamic range.

 

[mikeburton]

I would love it if the sensor upgrade was faster. And no, I don't mean getting to our RED One's faster but Rated (ISO) faster. I would be happy with an ISO 500 rating allowing me to shoot in darker settings without the fear of noise in the shadows.