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Zakaree Sandberg

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I love RED.. but there is one thing that bugs me and pretty much every DP/Operator/director that uses the camera...

on start up.. instead of seeing my shot and setting it up while waiting the 90 seconds.. im looking at a huge X and the red logo..

please, please, please take this away!
or make it small and put it in the corner if it must be there..

we all know what camera is booting up, it would just be nice to be able to see the shot.

Id hate to hear, well alexa doesnt do this... and so on..

just a thought
 
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Another vote for Zakaree's suggestion! :)
 
Another vote for a clean startup window.
Or as another cinematographer quipped, "if my brand of camera took 84 seconds to start up, I'd maybe put a SONY logo on the screen"
Cheers,
Harry
 
+1

If I remember correctly the M sensor camera was less obtrusive.
 
This sounds hardware-related (showing logo during boot), and I suspect if they could easily change it they would have by now. Seems like a no-brainer.
 
Wow, maybe I'm in the minority...sure I'd love a faster boot time, but it is what it is.

Are people really that uppity about this? The extra minute is such an inconvenience? There are so many other things happening on set -literally as soon as the camera is on the head, should the assistant not just power it up (if it's not already on)? Isn't a 3rd asst or some other getting video village hooked up and such?

And why not get the Switronix dual battery mount so you turn it on at the beginning of the day and not shut down until wrap?
 
Jeremy,

Its nothing to do with uppity, or attitude or opinion. Its simply a professional time issue - on set, it slows down the shoot by about 45 seconds each boot - if the logo was not there, you could frame and focus some while the camera was booting. And the client could also look at it. As it is now, the time is largely wasted, and the clients' impression of RED's brand is not positive - they see the brand, but we have to explain every time, hey, sorry, wait a minute.

Saturday we hammered through about 40 setups on a one day commercial shoot, and this precise issue slowed us down a hair on about 10 setups. Yes, if the stars aligned and we could plan battery swaps carefully it would not matter. But it doesn't work that way, and often a dual bat setup is too heavy. 10 setups, 45 seconds - 450 seconds. 450 expensive critical seconds.

Its a professional issue with a professional tool in a professional environment. :-) Had to do that.
 
Its simply a professional time issue - on set, it slows down the shoot by about 45 seconds each boot - if the logo was not there, you could frame and focus some while the camera was booting. And the client could also look at it. As it is now, the time is largely wasted, and the clients' impression of RED's brand is not positive - they see the brand, but we have to explain every time, hey, sorry, wait a minute.

it's not really about time management. it's more about dps and cam operators feeling helpless. no one wants to stand around waiting when you can be working but even less people want to be seen standing around waiting-especially important crew people.

when i shoot my own stuff for myself, i understand the wait and don't mind it so much. when i have a producer staring at me and all i can do is shrug my shoulders...not so much fun.
 
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