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i'am new in using the RED one camera, i'am on a big ski documentary/movie , and i had so many quastion to ask ...lol

first i was wondering about the format of the movie. the final format will be DVD blue ray. 1920/1080.

So i was wondering if i shoot in 4K and 2K for the slowmotion 120fps , which setting should i choose, 4K HD, 4K 2:1, 4K ana, 4K 16:9 /// 2K 2:1, 2K 16:9, 2K ana, to respect the ratio and have the final movie in 1920/1080.

thanks a lot for your help
 
Shoot either 4K 16:9 or 4K HD for normal speeds
Shoot 2K 16:9 for up to 100fps at RC28 or RC36
Shoot 2K 2:1 up to 100fps at RC36. 2K 2:1 up to 120fps at RC28

These times are for RED Drive.
16GB cards have slight differences at RC36.

The differences in shooting 4K 16:9 vs HD mode come down to post and how you are going to work with the footage. If you have a Red Rocket, most likely shooting 4K 16:9 is the best way to go. 4KHD mode can be useful in a non-Rocket environment. In terms of 2k 2:1, you can still frame for 16:9 and that will allow for clean 1920x1080 output.
 
Hi Favier

4KHD generates proxies at your final output resolution, so that might work the fastest in post. However then you do limit a bit on the frame of the sensor, so you lose a bit on your wide end (which is normally pretty cool for that type of filming).
When you shoot 2K you crop to the sensor (a lot), so you lose your wide angle for a very large part. I recommend also shooting 3K at 50 fps and then also further slow down in post. Simply because at 3K you get more info, more sharpness. If you do shoot 2K, definitely only use your very sharpest lenses at their sharpest settings, as 2K can easily go pretty soft. Especially compared to 4K. Compared to 2K, 3K is already leaps sharper.

And make sure your shutter is set to relative, so that if you go to slowmo mode in 2K or 3K, the shutter is properly set too.. Also wear warm shoes to prevent camera shake ;-)

Hope this helps a bit. Good luck!
 
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Hi and thanks for your answers
if i understand correctly, if i need to shoot only in 120fps when it comes to the slowmotion, i have to use 2K 2:1 at RC28 .
and 4K HD when i filmed normal speed 24p or 25p, so after when i put the all footage to export in HD 1080p there will be no problem for the resize process.?
i'am asking that because for the moment the guys who will edit the film is not found yet so i want to start the prodject in the right format, knowing that the final result will be on cinema, DVD and blue ray.
thanks again for you help
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simon
 
I would recommend going to 100 fps at redcode 36 in that case. The slowmotion reveals things and once you start pushing the footage around in post with the colors, you'll want to have as much info in the file as possible. It's easier to further slow down in post than it is too hide a 'lack' of information. All is relative of course, it is not like rc28 is a disaster.

We always shoot in a 2:1 ratio. You can always go back into making that 16:9 if you wish. Then you lose the sides of the frame in post, instead of in camera. But it gives a slight advantage that you use a wider frame for capturing the action. And if you go from 2:1 to 16:9, you could do a little pan and scan work if you like. This is however not the quickest to work with. If you really want the 16:9 ratio and want easy post work, than shoot in that ratio.
 
Yep, very cool. A friend of mine forwarded that to me about a year ago. Such a nice piece of work, looking forward to what you'll be doing with RED.
 
You might be disappointed with the 2K mode. It will appear slightly soft, especially in wide shots viewed on a regular size or large monitor or TV. You may want to test it and see if you are happy with it, especially considering your work has a lot of wide landscapes with fine detail (trees and skiers). 3K would be a good compromise but you would be limited to 50fps.
 
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