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RED ONE body color?

That doesn't make sense to me unless the cinema display is metal casing and the black LCD is plastic and therefore it is just not transmitting the heat back to you as fast. But if both casings were metal and one white and one black the black one will definitely get hotter.

It is aluminum vs. plastic. My point is. Metal gets hot. Really Hot when left out in the sun. Putting a white coat of paint isn't going to necessarily change a whole lot.
 
Surface color or paint color will have an effect on how hot it gets when baking in the sun, but I don't see where a flat black is going to be that much worse than a white or light grey. Black will probably heat up a bit quicker in most situations, but once it reaches its maximum sustainable temp in direct sunlight, I don't see black being more than a few degrees hotter than white, overall. OTOH, brushed or polished aluminum will actually get hotter than black. Walk out to a parking lot on a sunny day and touch a white car... hot. Then touch a black car... hot, a bit more so then the white, maybe. Then touch a chrome bumper... ouch.

Right now we don't know how well RED performs with extreme temperatures or other environmental factors. I'm confident that RED has been and is still being tested extensively in a multitude of environmental conditions. Why should we assume that RED having a black finish will be a problem? Perhaps it performs just fine with a black finish.

I'm a believer that if the environment is too sunny and hot for the camera, then it probably is for the camera operator too. Use an umbrella and or other protective gear to protect both yourself and your equipment.
 
i'd say at least 95% of all professional film /eng and efp cameras were black - @sheltie guy: and regarding white panavisions, i never had the chance to work with them, "only" arri, moviecam, bolex etc. but it's not hard to imagine the problems with reflections on set - just recently David Mullen confirmed this theory. So next to thermal advantages there are some practical ones, too.
 
White Red

White Red

I am not suggesting that every red camera needs to be white. Only that if the option was available I would order it because I live in a very hot place with very hot sun. To say that a black car would only be a few degrees hotter than a white car after an hour or more in the sun in a 100 degree day is not accurate. Come to Texas with a thermometer and check out these theoretical cars and I think you will be very shocked by the huge temperature dif. I will try this experiment myself in the as soon as the weather pattern here returns to it's normal hot hot.
 
To say that a black car would only be a few degrees hotter than a white car after an hour or more in the sun in a 100 degree day is not accurate.

Put a fan and vent in each car and they will be the same.

and besides only a few panavisions have a white CAMERA.. most just have a WHITE film magazine.

an umbrella would work best to keep the temp cooler
 
only a few panavisions have a white CAMERA.. most just have a WHITE film magazine.

No they don't every camera I have worked with has a mag the same color as the camera. Unless you consider an ARRI 435 with an ARRI III mag on it which does not happen that often and even then the ARRI III mag is black and the 435 camera and mag are grey. You may be thinking of camera barneys because a lot of them tend to be white.

an umbrella would work best to keep the temp cooler

This is the key to working in heat not the color of the camera. I have worked in extreme heat where the only real answer is shading the camera. On the other end of the spectrum I have worked in under 50 below where I had hot pack hand warmers taped everywhere on a sound sync camera and it still sounded like a john deer tractor. You have to deal with weather and color is not a real answer to the problem.
 
the last thing I can add to this discussion is:
"There are many dying children out there whose last wish is to meet me." The HOFF
 
Oh Kalone the Hoff has some other real beautiful quotes like the one where Germany is really thankful to him because he is the reason for the take down of the Berlin Wall. Among many others.
 
Oh Kalone the Hoff has some other real beautiful quotes like the one where Germany is really thankful to him because he is the reason for the take down of the Berlin Wall. Among many others.

That's not to be argued. Nobody here underestimates his generous action.
:-)
Except my teacher in elementary school, she had the brashness to call his voice "thin" when he offered a life performance here (of "lookin for booz...sorry, ...freedom").

*lol* But your signature+avatar makes me laugh each time when I spot it
 
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