RED Mysterium-X vs. ARRI Alev III sensor

[Pietro Impagliazzo]

All good points and we can only trust, from what Jim has said, that the new sensor technology Red is employing in the new cameras will, in some way, make this possible. It certainly inspires great confidence in me that the CEO of the bloody company is an accomplished photographer in his own right with extensive experience shooting with the very gear he's planning on usurping. Brook, you can bet your buttons that Jim's made tests not unlike your own - not to mention Graeme and the rest of the team.

Brook post was great, and as of today, Mysterium 1.0's native sensitivy really does matter.

But all we can expect is that the DR was so greatly improved it won't make a difference at the ISO levels Jim mentioned.

We shall wait and see... M-X is making curious.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Mysterium sensor has got a bit more sensitivity in Built 21 that is especially visible at widescreen 2.33:1 size.

I would say all today (Mysterium) and future sensors (M-X and Monstro) sensitivity and exposure latitude is in hands of Graeme Nattress.

Have a look at my latest quick and dirty lens test from yesterday:

Shot on R1, B21, both footage RedSpace output in REDCINE-X, both @ ISO 250.
Lenses Angenieux 70-210 FD f/3.5 @ f/4 (daylight) and Canon 85mm FD f/1.2 @ f/1.2, (lighting Tungsten 75W ordinary bulb).

DAYLIGHT FOOTAGE>>>

TUNGSTEN (NIGHT) FOOTAGE>>>

I could imagine what M-X would bring in terms of sensitivity and exposure latitude.

A paradise for shooting in all light situations..(!?).

 

[Stephen Williams]

Competitor A

Competitor A

Here is a photo that was used in the Arri Presentation.

The F35 can be seen amongst Arri cameras

 

[DeaneThrussell]

iso 800 is exciting but are we talking a true iso 800 ....my red one has iso 320 on the back and at a 180degree shutter on a light meter it seem to be more like 160-200iso so is this new M-x chip iso 800 at 180 degree shutter or is gonna be more like 400 because what i'm really looking for is a digital replacement to kodak500T stock

 

[Daniel Browning]

are we talking a true iso 800?

There is no such thing as a "true" ISO, especially for a raw file. The ISO standard has enough leeway in it that the same camera could be rated ISO 100 and ISO 1000 and both would be just as valid.

IMHO, the best way to specify ISO is to state "X stops below clipping in the green channel in 5600K". Where X is the most important factor. Many video cameras and digicams go with 2.5 stops. DSLR tend around 3 to 3.5 stops.

....my red one has iso 320 on the back and at a 180degree shutter on a light meter it seem to be more like 160-200iso

Someone who rates it at ISO 320 gets 1 stop more highlight headroom and more noise. 160 gives you less headroom and less noise.

so is this new M-x chip iso 800 at 180 degree shutter or is gonna be more like 400 because what i'm really looking for is a digital replacement to kodak500T stock

My guess is yes.

 

[Stephen Williams]

Arri said they were comparing to film when calculating ISO, using a 180 degree shutter

 

[Stephen Webb]

Actually, they've said that when comparing to 500asa Vision 3 the Alev III is about 1000asa. the 800asa is based on EI.