RED Cine-X to FCPx

[Scott Lamoreaux]

I've searched the other threads but can't find exact answers to my question regarding using Red Cine + FCPx.

1. I read a method of using red cine to color correct and even color grade, save RMDs, go into FCPx and import the r3d files and they will be graded as they were in fcpx. Essentially working with the native file or rmd, correct? -- Is this an acceptable method of workflow? It's been working for me however when I render out of fcpx, I almost have to use h264 each time as anything Prores is over 10gb+ if I want to render out 4k. The quality still looks great at this compression though.

2. When creating a timeline in fcpx for 4k/3k WS, which resolution do you recommend as apple only gives you a few options and none of them are the same as the size of the r3d size?

3. If I wanted to color grade further using Resolve, would I just create xmls in fcp and roundtrip back into fcp when done then final render?

Thank you!

 

[Scott Lamoreaux]

bump, anyone?

 

[Eric Santiago]

Wow sorry I missed this one.

Did you find any help outside of REDUSER?

There are a ton of video tutorials on this subject.

Let me digest your question and hopefull (workload heavy today) I can reply asap.

 

[Mike P.]

1.) Yes, but you'll invariably want to go to Resolve for secondaries/windows/masks.... basically "real" colour grading.

2.) Since FCPX 10.1 or something, you can enter in whatever resolution you want -- 3072x1620 or 4096x2160 or 4800x2700, along with the presents for 4k and 5k that were there before.

3.) Yes.

 

[Serge Tsipis]

1. Yes, that's the right way. Just remember to first grade your files with RCX and only then import to FCPX. Otherwise FCPX will stick to the original values no matter of RMDs.
2. As mentioned above, you're free to set any resolution you need in FCPX.
3. Yes. Better option would be to use multipass render. Best option IMHO is to export to e.g. ProRes 4444 and transcode to H264 with a better control of encoding process. There's plenty of converters/utilities available.

 

[Scott Lamoreaux]

1. Yes, that's the right way. Just remember to first grade your files with RCX and only then import to FCPX. Otherwise FCPX will stick to the original values no matter of RMDs.
2. As mentioned above, you're free to set any resolution you need in FCPX.
3. Yes. Better option would be to use multipass render. Best option IMHO is to export to e.g. ProRes 4444 and transcode to H264 with a better control of encoding process. There's plenty of converters/utilities available.

Awesome thanks for the reply. -- When you say export pro res 4444 are you saying to then bring the pro res into resolve then transcode out of resolve in h264?

Thank you!

 

[Scott Lamoreaux]

1.) Yes, but you'll invariably want to go to Resolve for secondaries/windows/masks.... basically "real" colour grading.

2.) Since FCPX 10.1 or something, you can enter in whatever resolution you want -- 3072x1620 or 4096x2160 or 4800x2700, along with the presents for 4k and 5k that were there before.

3.) Yes.

1. I wish I could use resolve but I'm editing on a new MacBook Pro 15" retina and the program doesn't scale to my screen only an external. Surprisingly using RCX and FCPX as I've described I really have no issues with dropped frames and renders are surprisingly fast enough to not bother me. I'm waiting for more people to discuss the 5k iMac before investing in one.

2. Where do you enter in whatever resolution you want? I only get a few options or to import based on the first clip or whatever.

3. Thank you

 

[Serge Tsipis]

There is no point going to 4444 for resolve. Both FCPX and Resolve do fine with R3D. I meant you export your master from FCPX to some low compression format as ProRes HQ / 4444 or XQ (if you need to preserve alpha channel) and only then transcode it to H264 with some control over the process offered by a third party utilities.

PS Sorry for the delayed answer, my fault.