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[Wayne Morellini]

Making a 1080p camera today is a walk in the park... anyone can do it... cheap. with off the shelf parts. Hell... my iPhone can even do 1080p now. For consumer devices on phones 1080p is great.

But anyone making and marketing a 1080p "professional" camera as "good enough" really should be embarrassed with themselves... and then charging an outrageous markup premium on top of that is even more backwards. At least I think so.

You can buy fullhd for around $70 I think, and maybe hack them to record 4k raw even (chip set support, but suitable io and sensor support needed). Imagine what gohero could do.

Great! AppleCare is the only extended warranty I ever bought that was worthwhile - and this sounds the same. Hope a plan for Scarlet is in the works.

The only downside is that you've used up the name. When I first saw the thread I thought you had developed some physical armor, like a shock and weather-resistant jacket. Would still like to see that - especially for the Fixed.

+100 and too.

A second protection skin for the scaret fixed would go far, just put it on, leave it on or replace it, as needed. Here is a interesting suggestion, to make the second skin form fitting sexy dark scarlet colored perspex . I would leave it on and keep spares, if cheap enough.

 

[Jarred Land]

A second protection skin for the scaret fixed would go far, just put it on, leave it on or replace it, as needed. Here is a interesting suggestion, to make the second skin form fitting sexy dark scarlet colored perspex . I would leave it on and keep spares, if cheap enough.

This sounds pretty sexy.. but remember the entire aluminum body acts like a heatsink.. not just the heat duct. Want to be careful not to trap the heat in.

 

[Dave_S]

Jarred, Mate, do you ever turn/look to your left in that car?????:yesnod:

 

[Dave_S]

or there is always fire burning to the right??

 

[Jarred Land]

My beautiful wife is usually sitting to the right... and I find it hard to keep my eyes off of her

heh heh heh.

 

[Zeb B]

My beautiful wife is usually sitting to the right... and I find it hard to keep my eyes off of her

heh heh heh.

Oh, I thought you were looking at my Canon Mount just one last time before giving it to the shipping department

 

[Dave_S]

ha ha ha, Mate, you have got the best sense of humor.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

This sounds pretty sexy.. but remember the entire aluminum body acts like a heatsink.. not just the heat duct. Want to be careful not to trap the heat in.

Ohh b........., what happens run and gunning next to your face in the tropics. So you let us know something, it's not Magesium based. Pity like those for the money.

Hey, have you seen the linked article over at 43rumors comparing hacked gh2 to Red? I don't know if these people hafe just done a poor red code to h264 conversion or something. Maybe somebody that knows what they are talking about should check it out.

Anyway, I was going to message you. Been spending hours trying to find the original scarlet announcement thread, and the one where they list all the different scarlet dsmc cameras and specs. Maybe around Dec 3 2008, but search is difficult. Would you know them?

Btw, I have a list of links where Jim has changed his mind about the scarlet, quiet amusing
. From pocket scarlet that will never be as good as a Red one, seperate dsmc to I don't know where we are now

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Hold it, I got it mate, for water proofing and thermal cooling, incase the camera in a block of ice. Now, how to stop the ice from melting, and will that viod my warranty?

 

[Chris Smith]

Not sure a HP / Dell PC is any more upgradable by module than a Mac.

Oh man, one of those things, yeah maybe. But they are still way cheaper. It's more like AlienWare pre-made kits to be on par with Apple upcharge. I mean the way I've always owned PC's, I buy all the parts on New Egg and build them and replace parts incrementally for years. But I'm talking about for a gaming machine. For real work where I have to use the computer as a user, I always use Macs. Apple because I want to, PC because that's the only option depending on the use. But I can't help but think you could take a premade HP or Dell and still swap all the parts from NewEgg for a long time.

But again, if someone likes the image and experience of a more expensive camera- just Like a Mac - It's worth the extra cost for some people to pay for the premium experience even if they get boned on replacing large parts of it in the future (you keep buying Mac's right?). We do get paid after all to turn in images, not to tell the client how cool the thing breaks into interchangeable parts and how much money we save on upgrades or how many more pixels of resolution are avail if they ever feel like using them someday. I will agree with you though that the design of the DSMC system is absolutely fantastic and is what made me buy an EPIC-M in the first place. They should be given huge kudos for it. But ironically I'm (really the buyer is) getting boned so far trying to sell it. And that kind of kills any joy or love I have over this whole thing. It's a lose/lose/lose for me/buyer/Red. I hope the buyer isn't soured on Red before he even gets to appreciate what he's getting

 

[Mark Toia]

heh heh yeah.. thanks for the correction.

Actually... 80k for the codec box on top of the ALEXA to shoot ARRI RAW... plus 80k for Camera... Quick math... makes it.... $130,000 dollars more than the EPIC and
you only get 2.8k RAW res at a max 30fps...

Compared to 5k RAW at 120 FPS... for a little as $40,000... mmmm.... when you look at it like this, you have to worry about the sanity of people purchasing the ARRI.

O well... you have to share the money around I suppose... All's good on earth ))))

 

[Chris Smith]

Actually... 80k for the codec box on top of the ALEXA to shoot ARRI RAW... plus 80k for Camera... Quick math... makes it.... $130,000 dollars more than the EPIC and
you only get 2.8k RAW res at a max 30fps...

Compared to 5k RAW at 120 FPS... for a little as $40,000... mmmm.... when you look at it like this, you have to worry about the sanity of people purchasing the ARRI.

O well... you have to share the money around I suppose... All's good on earth ))))

Well in the couple times a year you want the higher res than 1080 for an FX shoot you rent a RAW box. I seriously doubt any ARRI owners would buy a Codex box only to rarely use it. And 120fps is 4k, yes? My former EPIC only did 96fps at 5K. Personally I wish I could use the whole sensor size at 120fps and only turn in an 1080 file. The Alexa does that (yes with a $2500 upgrade). Again, to each his own. Everyone's needs are different. Me nor my clients rarely ever need more than 1080 (we shoot tv spots) but I DO always need the entire sensor utilized up to 120fps. If I want the 3.5k once or twice a year I'll rent the box for a few hundred bucks. Also, quote apple's to apple's. Alexas are not 80k. They are far cheaper. It's all the add ons that make a full kit 80k. My EPIC-M was 60k (58 for kit plus 2k worth of extra stuff to complete it). You are loosely comparing an EPIC-X body vs a full Alexa kit price.

 

[Daniel Browning]

" Since you are so sure on 1080, can you put on this contract that if your company releases a 4K camera in the next 3 years you will refund 80% of today's purchase? thank you. "

Ha ha! 1080p is only "good enough" until they release a 4K camera.

 

[Irmeli R]

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[Fabian Weber]

That's great!

 

[Antony M]

... Personally I wish I could use the whole sensor size at 120fps and only turn in an 1080 file...

Exactly what I am also after. And a while back Jim was promising just such a feature on the Epic. He called it 1080FF.
It is not currently available in the menu. But it is only a matter of time...

Unless he has changed his mind again????


On the subject of which... I wish there was a single thread which listed what features will be added to Epic, and which of the original features have now been left out permanently.

 

[Ivan McCullough]

On the subject of which... I wish there was a single thread which listed what features will be added to Epic, and which of the original features have now been left out permanently.

I am sure there would be....if they knew themselves what will be enabled and when.

Playback is the biggest need right now I feel and everything else is taking a backseat for now.

It seems the Epic is a monster to enable features on. Its probably the biggest problem with building such a powerful complicated Camera.

 

[Robert Cook]

We are pleased to announce RED ARMOR, our first official extended warranty program for the EPIC-X

Overview:

- $2850
- Can be purchased at time of purchase or any time during your original 1 year warranty.
- Can be purchased from RED USA or RED Europe
- Extends your original warranty by an additional 2 years.
- RED Armor covers both hardware and service labor for your EPIC-X brain from any of our RED certified service centers.

Details will be posted on RED.COM shortly and will be emailed to owners. Contact your BombSquad rep to enroll.

The Epic-M extended warranty program will be ready next week ( remember, M customers already get en extra year warranty )

I like it! P.S. This would make an AWESOME TEE Shirt!

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Platinum Armor

Platinum Armor

Something that concerns me, is stories of people with some main board malfunction that sounds like it might be minor that send in the camera and receive back a $6000 repair bill, which sounds like the price of a new replacement board with some very expensive near military grade fpgas on it (not saying that I know what current models use). For the Scarlet, in particular, will there be cheap options for refurbished replacement of boards as some sort of extended+ warranty?

Thanks.

 

[Erich Ocean]

This program does not apply to transferred purchases. This is only for original owners that have the standard 1 year warranty. We may introduce a transferred program down the road, but this isn't it.

So, if you have Red Armor (paid for), and you transfer the camera, the warranty reverts to 90 days? How can this possibly make sense?