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Red and Live earth

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Now these days there is (Live earth) concerts and I thought it would be great to point out to an interview over at Fxguide with (Instant Karma film).

Red camera is mention as one of many ways to get to a more global healthy environment. So I guess this is somehow interesting to anyone caring about their environment and the movie business.

Now with engineering delay off and thumbs up from some of the biggest names in the business, I think this is some good pointers for all of us.

http://www.fxguide.com/article440.html

http://www.instantkarmafilms.tv/
 
I've written a similar topic a while ago. Red will surely help reduce the both harmful and unnecessary by-products of photochemical filmproduction. In a smaller scale at the beginning, of course, since projection is still mainly done with film. But let's see what Red is going to offer when their 4K projectors come out...

BTW, Not to sound offensive here, and not at all directed at you, fix, but the Live Earth concerts are a big farce at least for me. If people would have taken the message that has been spread before all the time seriously, only those of the audiences would have gone there who could reach by bicycle or "per pedes". Not by car, SUV, plane or lord knows. I've read an article, where an analysis company has computed the amount of CO2 that had been produced in this giantic music promotion campaign. They've estimated in excess of 100.000 tons of CO2. And I really doubt that it was worth all that effort.
People already know enough about environmental protection. I'm 29 and got teached this since I'm 6 over and over again. I've put all lights off when not used since I was a little kid, same with saving water, waste separation and so on.
 
kalone said:
People already know enough about environmental protection. I'm 29 and got teached this since I'm 6 over and over again. I've put all lights off when not used since I was a little kid, same with saving water, waste separation and so on.
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If people did know enough about environmental protection, they wouldn't vote those who currently destroy the planet with their decisions.

Switching lights off etc is something, but isn't enough to save the planet.
 
Saving the planet is going to take some radical thinking and people willing to move into action to elect new leaders with the moral courage to do something about it.

Anyone who critizes the concerts as "not green" is missing the point.

Raising global awareness - all at once - may give the movement a boost.

aloha,

Keith
 
Leadership is the key. Politicians want votes. Votes = masses.

Since politicians always respond to mass concerns to retain or gain popularity, this concert will be effective, as they will adopt a "me too" attitude in order to garner loyalty and support among youth.
 
oil = past life

new life must feed off past life to survive.

past life is buried in the ground.

past life must be pumped to the surface to support new life.

oil underground = wasted life

what can we do to bring up wasted life to the surface?

how can we process it once its here to make new life?

Burn it to release carbon

pollution = life



This is not an argument. Just a thought.:shifty:
 
It does my heart good to read the comments that Proteus, Kieth, and acehole posted. My day got a bit brighter. I look forward to see what you guys do with your REDS.
 
Kalone, the thing is your in the EU, not in the USA, I know you turn your lights off and have good schooling with this stuff. We don't in the usa, my hope is that this Live Planet will WAKE UP some of the mass morons we have here. bring it "front page" in the media, and in peoples heads. This is what we really really need. If GM would start selling the VOLT next week after Planet Earth I bet they would sell tons of them, people are aware now for about 1 min before Paris Hilton hits the rags again as the top story.
 
Yes Paris Hilton really is great news...

If we want to take our environment seriously than propaganda like (live earth) concert is necessary even though it causes a “big” bunch of CO2 doing it. Put that to aside, the question I would raise to mind is “what can the movie/media business do to lover the pollution?”

RED seems to head in the right direction. Though it's somehow ironic since environmentally friendly products tend to be costly and difficult to produce. Now RED ONE is probably not easy to produce, but costly it ain't in its league these days. Jim know what the crowd wants, he proven that with Oakley and hopefully getting there with RED ONE. My guess would be (and I truly hope so) that environmentally friendly products will become a “must have” in the next decade (at least in Europa obin :) ). I guess we will see tons of new products from the RED team in the next couple of years. So I want to urge the RED team about minding which vendors they use making this great camera and their products to come.

Soderbergh is probably right. RED will (if not part of) revolutionize the business, not only for the pro's but also for the consumer's. After all, we are talking about a growing marked and tons of equipment.
 
obin said:
Kalone, the thing is your in the EU, not in the USA, I know you turn your lights off and have good schooling with this stuff.
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Hey Obin,

ok, that's a good point, I've forgot that. But I was generalizing my view because this whole discussion is going on here for so long. At least for my whole life.
I didn't know how things were handled over there. Sorry for the harshness.

But I still keep to my point. Music doesn't change much, in my opinion it mainly "comments" things. But ok, this is coming from someone who gives nothing on so called celebrities who rarely live what they preach.

K.
 
Fix said:
the question I would raise to mind is “what can the movie/media business do to lover the pollution?”
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I think with this statement you are missing the point.

It's not how the movie/media business can make more eco-friendly cameras and "green" production systems...

The movie/media business can make more MOVIES that raise awareness about our global problems so that people wake up and do something.

Jim is giving the world a tool and selling it at an unheard of price so that more people can tell stories.

What he is doing is creating a revolution in our industry. And, the result of that may rewrite a famous quote...

"The RED is mightier than the sword."

And that may change the history of the world.

The device that changed the world more than any other was the invention of the Guttenburg press.

I, for one, will be using my RED for exactly that purpose.

aloha,

Keith
 
Could be that millions of people slept better after the pathetism of yesterdays Live Earth happening arround the globe. But the darwinism power of each individual is still much stronger than any global idea to save the world. I'm not shure if Al Gores catechism lasts longer than any other world saving idea in the past. Good, that we speak about it, that gives us the feeling to be a part of ... what exactly?
 
artbeatsart said:
Could be that millions of people slept better after the pathetism of yesterdays Live Earth happening arround the globe. But the darwinism power of each individual is still much stronger than any global idea to save the world. I'm not shure if Al Gores catechism lasts longer than any other world saving idea in the past. Good, that we speak about it, that gives us the feeling to be a part of ... what exactly?
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That's what I'm saying.
I mean, people don't care for their own body, the most precious thing they've got. But still the world is smoking, drinking, eating excessively, having dangerous "fun sports" etc., all of them know (and even more impressive) even FEEL the effects.
And this crowd is supposed to save the world? I mean, even the Germans who consider themselves as the precursors in ecology immediately started moaning after some officials proposed to discard travelling by plane and to book their vacations at domestic destinations over far ones.
 
Keith Nealy said:
I think with this statement you are missing the point. It's not how the movie/media business can make more eco-friendly cameras and "green" production systems...
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Strange way to put it. I think you sum up only one of the things that we actually can do something about. If we want to make things change than this is a major factor in the business like all others. Do you actually believe that everything is produced in an eco-friendly fashion? You like me and others are using things everyday that is produced in a fashion that harms our eco-system. But it doesn't necessary need to be that way. Thats why I'm urging the companies to think about their vendors. Because there are tons of shady ones.

Than there is us the consumers. Let me quote something I totally agree with.

“fxg:: what are some of the big ways our industry could improve?”
“CF: I wish I had the answer to that question but I don't think there is any one big thing we can do. I think it is going to be the cumulative effect of everyone doing their small part that will make a difference.“

Now dont tell me we cant do anything about that? I have been working in the TV buisness and know that we can change things.

I think its great that you and those alike make movies/documentaries that mention people about our common problem and maybe how to solve them. But as I'm saying, there is also ways we can produce and make those movies in a environment friendly fashion. Im sure you agree with that. Like instead of shooting on the other side of the earth... go green screen. Instead of film go RED. Or get low watt and more environmental friendly light bulbs in your next shoot.
 
I plan to produce an action/adventure blockbuster type movie to lure in the audience (think Lara Croft: Tomb Raider), and then at the climax of the story insert a blow-your-mind, visually stunning, "save the world" message. This will be done mostly in a solar-powered green screen studio. Hopefully save the world message and environmentally friendly fashion in which it is produced will attract some big name talent to do it for cheap (i.e. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie).
 
You are absolutely right.

We all need to look at our busineses and lives and see where we can change our habits and learn to do things in a more efficient way, the movie business as well. I apoligize if I trivialized your concern.

Today it may seem like a burdonsome option. But tomorrow the truth will become more apparent and we all will wish we took this a little more seriuosly.

Yesterday people were concerned about climate change but that is not even the worst calamity that is facing the world. Soon people will begin to find out about the "Peak Oil Crisis". It has been kept a secret by the world's "powers that be" that and will begin to change this planet in as little as ten years.

In a decade or two this will make global warming look like a day at the beach.

We are in for very tough times that will not get better in our lifetimes.

Those of us with the power to communicate need to learn about this and fold this theme into every type of story to make people aware.

Concerned people can make a difference.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margret Mead
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aloha,

Keith
 
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