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RED #8 testing team & some details

sharkguy said:
... and no I knew better than to ask if I can take #8 underwater. Hey #13 you feeling lucky :-)
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Thanks for volunteering #13 Billy. I was afraid Sharky would ask to dunk #17 next. I would even bring my scuba gear to watch that. It's amazing what you can do with zip lock bags and duct tape. :)

Steve
 
Yeah, I'm glad someone volunteered. I want to see this... I'm sure sharkguy knows what he's doing, and if he needs any help during REDTest, I'll gladly assist with duct tape, rubber bands or even an all out effort to double-bag RED #13. :)
 
Gibby said:
Those who have been following various threads on RED User the past few months know I've organized a team for independent testing of RED #8 in Los Angeles the Los Angeles area immediately after I receive the camera. More info will be released as we get closer to the delivery of #8, which is now scheduled for August 30. As Jim Jannard noted, that delivery date could still change. The point is, #8 will be tested immediately after delivery of the camera. Here is some info on the testing of #8:

Overview
We'll test both cine-style and EFP style setups, scores of lenses, accessories, etc. Impressions and results will be posted on RED User, HD for Indies, and some magazine articles I'll write. Various news outlets have requested information about the testing, and interviews with the testing team members. I’ll have unlimited time to work with the camera system after the testing sessions, so I will personally take a mostly hands off position in the testing, and rather let the team do their thing. I’ll shoot DSLR stills of the team at work, and I am producing the testing. The tests will not be a shootoff against other camera systems, but rather real world shooting and testing of a production RED One camera system with as many setups and lighting conditions as we can fit into 2 days, then a technical analysis of the results.

Team
Evin Grant has accepted my invitation to direct the testing. The team is highly experienced and diverse in their backgrounds. As of now, the team members who have accepted invitations are: Me, Evin Grant, David Mullen ASC, Charles Papert SOC, Matt Uhry, Ken Corben, Haakon, Brook Willard, Alexander Nikishin, Ralph Oshiro, Daren Findling, and Jeff Kilgroe. There will also be an ace FX guy and a veteran camera technology guy, both of which will remain un-named until after the testing sessions when the results are published. I'm excited about the skill set and experience composition of the team - cine, EFP, still photo, editors, FX, camera technology, specialty cinematographers, etc. Nobody is being paid for their time spent testing – they’re donating their time, something I deeply appreciate. It’s hard matching team member’s work schedules against the testing days, so it may happen that some of the team members won’t be able to attend both days, or attend at all. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. We’ll have a list of reserve testers we can call on as replacements, should a team member be unable to attend. If initial team members have to drop out for scheduled work, reserve list members will fill their team places.

Facility
For equipment security and crowd control purposes, the location of the testing facility will be kept secret until after the testing, when the results are published on RED User and elsewhere. The testing facility will be identified in the posted and published results of the testing. A great Los Angeles area production/post production company has donated their facility for the 2 days of testing - very cool, and very appreciated. The testing team members have yet to be told where the facility is located. Before they are told the location, they will be placed under a non-disclosure agreement. Please don’t pester them for information. They will not be free to give you any info about the testing facility or its location.

Testing Parameters
More info will be released as we get closer to the testing dates. In advance of the testing, I'm having each team member submit their Wish List for parameters, setups, lenses, and accessories to test on the camera. We’ll accommodate as many of those suggestions as possible within the testing time constraints. Me and Evin will be approaching this testing the same as when we individually produce motion media projects – an organized testing schedule analogous to the shooting schedules used on the set or in the field. That way we’ll have a good chance of getting through all the testing and analysis we have on the testing schedule. Testing team members will be asked to use all their varied skill sets, to be unbiased, analytical, and objective - while also paying close attention to aesthetics and artistry.


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Summary
Nobody has asked me to organize the testing of RED #8. It was completely my own idea, and I’m donating my camera and time as I produce the testing sessions. As a purchaser of two RED One camera systems, I’m obviously curious about the hands-on results, strengths, and limitations of the system. Though I’m well qualified to test the camera myself, I feel that there is no better way to quickly answer my questions about the camera than to assemble a diverse and talented group of professionals, and then team test it. That way, the results should have a lot more dimension and depth than just myself testing out the camera. After deciding on a team testing of the camera system, the next logical thought that came to my mind, was this: Rather than horde the results and knowledge gained from the testing among the team alone, why not post it so that the rest of you who are hungry for real-world, hands-on feedback on RED One can share in the results. That was an easy decision for me. Anyone who has followed the development of RED One since it was first announced, should also know that I have continually stepped up to mentor, advise, and inform this board and others about the tech and business principles of the motion media industry, and specifically share what knowledge and insight I may have about RED and RED One. It’s been fun for me doing that and I’ve learned immensely from many of the rest of you. This testing is an extension of that symbiosis: I’m sharing this testing with you – and I’m sure you’ll be sharing your ideas and results over the coming months and years ahead with me. I’ve been very fortunate to get an early reservation number so I’m spreading the benefits around this board to all of you. If many of you were in my position, I seriously think you would do the same thing.


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Note: I'll be on location today shooting some television programming. Shortly after putting this thread up I have to head out for today's shooting. Later tonight I'll visit RED User and be happy to then answer any questions posted on this thread.

Cheers! :biggrin:
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Hi Gibby if I can help in any way please let me know.

I have a 16' trailer, Fresnel tungstens from Filmgear: 1)12k, 4)5k, 4)2k, 6)1k, 6)650w, 6)300w, 10)150w, parabeam 400, Kinoflow 4bank, stands, sandbags, Honda generators 4 2K's ecc.

Also lenses in Nikon F mount, the ZEISS ZF and the EOS Canon the EF L series glass.

So please let me know, I will be available no problem.

Also..(forgive me if this is a silly offer, but comes from the heart) for post screening I have the Sony Pearl true HD 1920/1080p Projector shooting on to a 12' Draper Tensioned Hidef grey screen, so if you guys needed it will be at your disposal.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com
 
Great move, Gibby!
Seems like a pretty nice crew you'll have there...we are all looking forward to see what you come up with. Thank you for doing all this and best of luck to all of you, guys. Hope you'll have a blast.
 
johannperry said:
One more guy who would gladly lend a hand too.
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Yikes! I've got one that looks a lot like that.... Turns the big 2 on the 9th. ...Scary.
 
I drank the kool aid

I drank the kool aid

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I saw the Peter Jackson movie today. I see things differently now.

Gibby, could you film some shots at night, similar to the shots in the Miami Vice movie. Thanks.

Why did I ever question you?
 
Miami Vice

Miami Vice

Below is a cool shot from Miami Vice. This is what I am talking about. Gibby said his crew would be shooting test footage on a lot/set. So, I don't expect Gibby to recreate this scene. But a shot like this would be a good test of how the RED One performs.
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Steve Tammi said:
Thanks for volunteering #13 Billy. I was afraid Sharky would ask to dunk #17 next. I would even bring my scuba gear to watch that. It's amazing what you can do with zip lock bags and duct tape. :)

Steve
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Jeff Kilgroe said:
Yeah, I'm glad someone volunteered. I want to see this... I'm sure sharkguy knows what he's doing, and if he needs any help during REDTest, I'll gladly assist with duct tape, rubber bands or even an all out effort to double-bag RED #13. :)
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Billy, Jeff and Steve now that you mention it...

I was thinking of shooting the first underwater RED 4K 3D tests which will require two Redone cameras. Perhaps after the LA RED test in LA we can head to Tonga to shoot underwater 3D of humpback whales as a test with Mike Hastings and his custom housing? If only my wallet matched my imagination.

Imagine this on a RealD 3D screen:
http://www.naia.com.fj/tonga/whaleinfo.html

or we could go to South Africa and shoot this:
 
sharkguy said:
Perhaps after the LA RED test in LA we can head to Tonga to shoot underwater 3D of humpback whales as a test with Mike Hastings and his custom housing? If only my wallet matched my imagination.

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or we could go to South Africa and shoot this:
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Dang it Ken don't tempt me. :) At some point I need to actually put the camera to work on something that might make a buck or two.

- Steve
 
regista said:
Imagine... an exclusive REDxpedition to Tongareva, Tonga, Pitcairn, Easter Island... you name it!

Hey, we can all dream! :red_bandana:
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Sounds like entirely too much fun.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Sounds like entirely too much fun.
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LOL...those are normal production trips for us non-narrative production people whose genre specialties include nature, alternative sports, adventure travel, and world culture documentaries. Even family and friends hate us sometimes because we go to such fun places. Then again...its a lot of hard work...but we love our work, so its a labor of love!
 
Steve, what about to test your #8 here in southwestern Europe during september? :sorcerer: Then, you could include me on your fab list! (I'm envious!... :innocent:)

E. ;-)

EDIT -- I promise...I bring the drinks. :)
 
Emanuel,

Thank you for that suggestion...I'd love to do that, and I can't wait to visit Europe again, but we'll have to see what the exact production schedule brings. After the L.A. REDTests I need to put #8 right to work on some projects. Hopefully they will involve a trip to Europe.

There have been so many great offers to assist us...it is really cool! I wish we had a big enough studio to fit everyone who is interested in being on the testing team, but unfortunately we've reached the limit of how many team members we can fit into the testing sessions.

The testing team members have already been submitting and comparing great suggestions for the testing sessions. The team will continue to analyze all suggestions until we boil that down into a workable schedule for the two days testing. We would encourage members and visitors of RED User to post their testing suggestions here. We can't guarantee that we'll be able to fit your suggestions into the two days, but all suggestions are appreciated by the testing team. This is a community effort, and even though everyone can't be there, we will definitely consider all suggestions. Things are getting real busy as we continue our preparations for the testing, so if we're slow to answer your PMs, please know that we appreciate them, they will definitely be considered, and we'll fit in what we can.

Thanks everyone!
 
Eugene said:
koolaid_man_1.jpg


I saw the Peter Jackson movie today. I see things differently now.

Gibby, could you film some shots at night, similar to the shots in the Miami Vice movie. Thanks.

Why did I ever question you?
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Gibby, I would love to see footage shot in all kinds of existing light at night too--but more Collateral and less Miami Vice. :)

I am counting the days... two months! Seems like such a long time. Eugene, how did the short look? Could you describe it please?

And--dumb question--is Tonga anywhere near FL? :) If so, I would love to come help out! I know Hastings is from here...
 
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