RED #41 commercial 9/11/07 PNG's

[Álex Montoya]

Nice pics, manny, but I don't feel that sharpening, even mild, is needed with the RED.

 

[Jannard]

Startups rarely go smoothly. Mark had a problem and we are doing our best to fix it. Just like we would do for any of our customers.

Jim

 

[Mark Mannschreck]

BTW - It was VERY cool of them to come to our location not once but three times to help us out. We were lucky to be close to RED HQ!

 

[Mark Mannschreck]

link to HVX PNG

http://www.mediafire.com/?9t7yr1gyd1j

compare to

http://www.mediafire.com/?8mwl111zdn1

just opened HVX clips in FCP and exported PNG. Opened in photoshop to change image size to 1280

 

[Guy]

Jim,

Can you shed any light on the split compression issue?

more examples on this thread:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4450

Thanks

 

[Ramesh Jai]

I can hear Panasonic now - "HVX saves a RED shoot"

LOL!!

 

[Häakon]

That HVX still looks downright embarassing by comparison.

These are the kinds of tests we need to see more of - the side by side stuff really shows off the differences in resolution, compression artifacts, detail, depth-of-field capability, dynamic range, highlight handling, and just about every other area where RED crushes the competion. Thanks for taking the time to share.

 

[Mark Mannschreck]

I was gonna possibly post some frames from redAlert! with NO changes except for asa and wb. I've leaned alot about RedAlert! since posting this AM. I have been compressing Red to (uhg) DVCProHD 72024 all day.

 

[Michael Schrengohst]

Excellent, hope we can see some of those lovely images moving.

 

[C.H.Haskell]

Yikes...my HVX will never feel (or look) the same, blast!

Good luck with #41 and nice work!

 

[Rick Darge]

I keep toggling between that HVX grab and the Red grab.. damn.. the HVX is such a piece of crap compared to red. .. looks like SD

 

[Ryan Sims]

8Bit PNG

8Bit PNG

To be completely fair, it looks like the HVX PNG file is only an 8bit file. Any way to get a 16bit PNG for the HVX. All the RED PNGs are at 16Bit. It's not like it the color bit depth is really gonna help the resolution. There really is no contest.

Thanks for using PNGs. I hope everyone finds them as useful.

 

[Michael Schrengohst]

DVCPRO HD is only 8 bit.
So a 16 bit PNG won't help.
But that was a good shot for
comparison sake.
What did your client say when the RED
went down?

 

[Mark Mannschreck]

What did your client say when the RED
went down?

I diverted attention by immedietely yelling "that's Lunch!"

When everyone came back I had the HVX high up on a jib with a Red sticker on the side.

 

[Michael Schrengohst]

!!!
LOL, I wondered when someone was going to do that!!

 

[robbo]

I diverted attention by immedietely yelling "that's Lunch!"

When everyone came back I had the HVX high up on a jib with a Red sticker on the side.

LOL - too funny !:biggrin:

 

[Spike Baumann]

Mediafire is slow as a one legged dog trying to dig a hole on a frozen lake.

 

[Jim Arthurs]

I keep toggling between that HVX grab and the Red grab.. damn.. the HVX is such a piece of crap compared to red. .. looks like SD

No more need to toggle... HVX scaled up to 4K, then both resized to 2K...

http://ftp.datausa.com/imageshoppe/outgoing/RED/RED-vrs-HVX.png

... I didn't label which is which.

Don't think I need to.

This isn't like two years ago trying to tell if the HVX's 1080p is a fraction better than the HVX's 720p.

Good times.

 

[Desert Rune]

No more need to toggle... HVX scaled up to 4K, then both resized to 2K...

How does it look with HVX scaled to 2K from 720P, instead of doing two interpolations... because your workflow won't make sense for someone working with HVX 720P footage.

 

[Jim Arthurs]

How does it look with HVX scaled to 2K from 720P, instead of doing two interpolations... because your workflow won't make sense for someone working with HVX 720P footage.

True, but the images are so far apart in resolution that it's almost a joke to even compare them in any sense of the word. We're not dealing with fractional differences in which the testing manner will influence the outcome. RED just wins.

Scale RED down to 720 and compare... it's sharper. Scale HVX up to 4K and leave them there... RED is sharper. Scale HVX to 1080 and RED down to 1080... it will be sharper... and on and on...

Oh, and we're only talking resolution... the dynamic range is a whole 'nuther world of hurt for the HVX...