Red 23 Landscape

[Scott Webster]

Had a request for some landscape and nature shots.
48MB 4k Tiffs uncorrected.

Red23_bushpath

Red23_landscape2

Red23_landscape

Andrew Stoud DOP Comments:

These tests were prompted by the post guys who were looking for nice big wide shots with lots of detail and saturated colour. The sun was quite high in the sky and it was very unflattering light.

The camera was set at 320 ASA and exposure evalution was made taking meter readings off my pentax spotmeter set at 500 ASA.

Zeiss standards were the lenses.

It was my intention to base my exposures entirely off my meter readings and I treated it like a reversal or BW stock. I gave it a bit more for the highlights.

The wide/long shots were shot on 20mm and 180mm at around T-22 with a Pola. The base stop was around T-45 to T-90. I didn't have any more ND handy. In my experience these lenses don't resolve quite as well at deep stops. You might get more depth of field but the trade off is in lost resolving power.

The ability of any lens to resolve detail is dependent on many variables, its also a subjective and relative thing

Andrew.

 

[purefilm]

Thank you for posting. It is always exciting to see new images.

 

[jbeale]

These are wonderful stills, thank you very much! (would love to see the thumbnail landscape large; the full-sized Red23_landscape.tiff is a different shot). Can you tell us what lens was used, and what f-stop?

 

[Matt Setnes]

They were right NZ is too bright. What lens was used for these?

 

[Scott Webster]

These are wonderful stills, thank you very much! (would love to see the thumbnail landscape large; the full-sized Red23_landscape.tiff is a different shot). Can you tell us what lens was used, and what f-stop?

Apologies, a bit of confusion between naming and swapping between computers at home and work. It will take about an hour to get the thumbnailed landscape shot up and I'll update the thumbnails.

The shots were taken by Andrew Stroud who has been our main test DP using his personal set of Zeiss Standards. I don't have the shot details at hand.

 

[jbeale]

Geek alert: For the extreme pixel-peeping, 500% magnification type folks, I notice some interesting things on the landscape TIFF file. For example, just looking at the blue channel in Photoshop, the histogram is almost entirely within the 50...196 range, yet there are several areas where the blue value goes abruptly to 0 in areas where I am pretty sure it should not be zero. In the color view, those areas are the brightest grass-green regions, so it seems the color has been exaggerated and clipped the blue channel.

 

[casey warren]

Had a request for some landscape and nature shots.
48MB 4k Tiffs uncorrected.

Red23_bushpath

Red23_landscape

Is that first image from the same place they filmed LOTR. The road where they had the first encounter with the ringwraith.

 

[Craig Ryan]

Beat me to it Casey! lol I was about to post "Get off the Raoood!"

 

[Scott Webster]

Thumbnails updated and link now available.

 

[Miltos Pilalitos]

Here's a quick CC of the first frame:

The blue channel is indeed doing some funny stuff...

 

[Scott Webster]

The blue channel is indeed doing some funny stuff...

Just note that these were taken from one generation before the latest camera firmware and Red Alert release. Rob or Graeme will need to comment on the blue channel issue.

 

[Michael Mann]

Rocketeer, thanks a lot for posting these stills.
Analysing them in PS (100%) I find them very soft compared to nature stills of my Nikon D200 (all in-camera sharpening switched off). Is it just me who has this impression?

Would be very useful to compare to similar shots using the new RED 18-50.

 

[Rick Darge]

I agree

Thanks for posting, but, the images look bad to my eye, way to noisy, videoy, bad.. what gives?

 

[dalemccready]

Looks like Kare Kare to me. Would be nice to get Andrew to walk up Pararaha with 23 when you get some time with it. Some good views from there.

 

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

The path pic was a little out of focus I did some work on it though.

 

[Álex Montoya]

Yeah... there's sth strange going on there. The blue channel goes black in the place where the green one clips.

Maybe it has something to do with highlight pprotection?

And it IS very soft. I guess the painted efefct has to do with wavelet compression.

 

[Scott Webster]

Tough crowd. Don't worry I'm here all week. Have you tried the shrimp?:turned:

We've had a Zeiss STD and Red Zoom on a lightbox and collimator and they are resolving the same resolution(or close enough)

Andrew was using the Panasonic BT-LH900 which I know in our first tests the crew struggled with in daylight even with a hoodman (our RED LCD wasn't working) That may explain the softness.

I'd be interested hearing from Graeme or Rob because I think it may be the compression dealing with the scenes that is the effect.

I'll check with our Post people on Monday and get their call.

Dale wins the location prize, Kare Kare.

 

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

A Real Focus puller doesn't need a monitor!
or so I hear...

 

[Miltos Pilalitos]

Hey Rocketeer,

Is the following frame belonging to the same footage?

I didn't get this from Reduser or red.com and i am not sure who actually shot this but it has a similar softness to the ones you posted....

A lens issue maybe?

 

[Álex Montoya]

Is the following frame belonging to the same footage?

Yeah, I thought the same. Look at the footage from Jim shot in similar conditions, much, much better.