Recording Raw + Pro Res simultanniously

[Joe Riggs]

How has everyone's experience been recording Raw+ Pro Res simultaneously?
Any issues, gotchas, or things to watch out for?

 

[David Kiang]

How has everyone's experience been recording Raw+ Pro Res simultaneously?
Any issues, gotchas, or things to watch out for?

I've had good experience with my Epic-W. Just watch out when nearing capacity of your REDMAG as you may lose your ProRes file or R3D for that clip. Other than that, it's been rock solid.

 

[RyanFrancis]

Did it once. It was a long shoot. Worked great! No issues at all.

 

[Bob Gundu]

If you don’t want split prores files, format the card using UDF instead of exfat.

 

[William Long]

Use it all the time and haven't had a problem.

 

[Joe Riggs]

If you don’t want split prores files, format the card using UDF instead of exfat.

That's good to know, that seems like that could be a huge issue in post...thanks


Is there an option in the camera settings to format it as UDF?

 

[Tommaso Alvisi]

That's good to know, that seems like that could be a huge issue in post...thanks


Is there an option in the camera settings to format it as UDF?

Yes there is indeed! ;-)

Be sure to Secure Format if changing to UDF instead of the older FAT32.

If recording both R3D + ProRes I'd Secure Format each time instead of a normal format to ensure 100% performance of the card every single time...

 

[Adam Montville]

How are you guys importing the footage, as the Prores + R3D being in the same folder can cause duplication / annoyance trying to pick the correct format. I didn't sit down very long at it, and just had an editor deal with it, but was wondering about it.

 

[Chris McKechnie]

You can do a search from within your finder for let's say .r3d files. Temporarily relocate those to another folder...do your footage ingest of the pro-res proxies. Once you're ready to re-conform, you can delete/relocate those .mov files for the R3D versions and it should auto-populate into your timeline.

 

[Andrew R Lewis]

I have a technical question regarding the process.

Does anyone know if the camera simultaneously records the R3D and proxy file or does the CPU encode the R3D to create the proxy?

 

[Marcus Friedlander]

If I remember correctly, the prores gets compressed from the same PURE RAW stream that the R3D gets compressed from. Meaning that your Prores will be a 1st generation clip, and not a 2nd generation rerender of the R3D.

 

[Tommaso Alvisi]

If I remember correctly, the prores gets compressed from the same PURE RAW stream that the R3D gets compressed from. Meaning that your Prores will be 1st generation clip, and not 2nd generation rerenders of the R3D.

Yes exactly and that's why it's super clean ;-)

 

[James Codeglia]

Be sure to set your Monitor Output Sharpness to 0, or else you'll see harsh sharpening artifacts recorded in your ProRes. For some reason that setting affects ProRes. But the Focus Check sharpening tool is not recorded, so that one is safe to use.

 

[Patrick Tresch]

You can do a search from within your finder for let's say .r3d files. Temporarily relocate those to another folder...do your footage ingest of the pro-res proxies. Once you're ready to re-conform, you can delete/relocate those .mov files for the R3D versions and it should auto-populate into your timeline.

I'd do the contrary ;-)

Drag and drop all .mov files to a new "Prores" folder and don't change the R3D location.
You can keep all your Prores rushes in the same folder if you want.

 

[Steve Wall]

I'd do the contrary ;-)

Drag and drop all .mov files to a new "Prores" folder and don't change the R3D location.
You can keep all your Prores rushes in the same folder if you want.

Is there a relatively straightforward way to shift all the .mov files from within the entire card download folder into a separate say 'ProRes' folder, without moving the R3D's or having to use terminal? This would be pretty unreal for workflow.

 

[Bérenger Brillante]

same as for r3D above.
search for *.mov on your footage folder.
cut/copy somewhere else.

 

[M Most]

Is there a relatively straightforward way to shift all the .mov files from within the entire card download folder into a separate say 'ProRes' folder, without moving the R3D's or having to use terminal? This would be pretty unreal for workflow.

If you're on a Mac or Linux machine, you could use a simple terminal script to do that. Here's something that would work:

find src/dir/ -name '*.mov' -exec mv {} target/dir/ \;

Replace the directories with your actual source and destination directories and run this from the parent directory (i.e., the directory that contains your .RDC folders).