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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Really basic Redcine-X tutorial for free

Dan Kanes said:
Hi Liam - there are different philosophies on how this should be done.

Your workflow we could call the closed Loop system - you are going to be doing the color work yourself from start to finish, so you as an individual have the ability to bake the cookies how you want so to speak.

Since you are using premiere, AE and Colorista you can work natively with the raw r3ds.

Not everyone works with the native files, and in those cases where a post house is involved and they are used to a logarithmic "analog" grading technique - I'd recommend flattening the image to Redlogfilm and redcolor 2, and outputting at the highest quality they can take whether it is prores4444 or a dpx sequence.

For your closed-loop system - I would start with one clip and run some tests - first try working the clip with original metadata in PPro/AE/CTA. Maybe spend 10min on it.

Next try taking the clip into RCX, fine tuning white balance, setting middle grey, your toe (blacks) Knee (mids) and shoulder (highlight roll). Then import your clip and make sure the rmd carries over from your RedCine X session.

Finally, I'd say try the same method as step one , but instead of grading from metadata, set your Gamma to RedLogfilm, and make sure you are in redcolor 2.

By the end of this series of about 45min total in testing you should be able to tell:

Which way gives you BEST results
Which way gives you FASTEST results

The best thing is that we have choices now, and as rcxpro evolves it looks like it has the potential to be used as a full nle suite for r3ds...

Personally I use the firstlight technique a lot because I don't work with my projects at the editorial stage, and many times we don't even get a final color pass, so I just do my best to shape them up before they go anywhere.
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Dan,

Your awesome! :)

Thanks for your time and excellent advice.

Best Wishes

Lliam
 
Great Dan! Thank you so much. I just finished my first grading in a somewhat proper form (comparing to my previous tries, when jumping from tool to tool). I used r3Ds, that Jarred posted over the Recon. Loved it. So much freedom to do stuff. Really just can't wait to get started with my own footage. Of course after my Scarlet arrives:))
 
Great video ... a questions ... perhaps answered in the next video?

Q. if you were doing color correction in two passes (i.e. one general on all shots full frame, then a second pass for skin/etc) ... how would you do that to stay in raw as long as possible using redcine. My expected workflow is ?? redcine/adobe premier/magic bullet. I think i understand general full frame color correction, but i get lost in how i retain raw when doing subframe coloring (i.e. skin color changes, where i have a full frame). My workflow might be totally wrong, I don't know.
 
Thanks. Very helpful.
 
PatrickFaith said:
Q. if you were doing color correction in two passes (i.e. one general on all shots full frame, then a second pass for skin/etc) ... how would you do that to stay in raw as long as possible using redcine. My expected workflow is ?? redcine/adobe premier/magic bullet. I think i understand general full frame color correction, but i get lost in how i retain raw when doing subframe coloring (i.e. skin color changes, where i have a full frame). My workflow might be totally wrong, I don't know.
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While you stay RAW in the Adobe products and you can use whatever you have there (masks, tracking, the whole lot) I'd suggest DaVinci Resolve. Even for a one person shop it makes sense, and if you are able to learn the programs you mention you can learn that one too. Do your first light in RCX, move on and never look back. You need full blown secondaries for skin tones more often than not, and RCX doesn't have them. Would be a bit too much to expect from a free software, wouldn't it?
 
Uli Plank said:
While you stay RAW in the Adobe products and you can use whatever you have there (masks, tracking, the whole lot) I'd suggest DaVinci Resolve. Even for a one person shop it makes sense, and if you are able to learn the programs you mention you can learn that one too. Do your first light in RCX, move on and never look back. You need full blown secondaries for skin tones more often than not, and RCX doesn't have them. Would be a bit too much to expect from a free software, wouldn't it?
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So let me get this straight...

RCX (light first CC) ---> Adobe Premiere/AE for secondaries

Does RCX save the light CC metadata which is, in-turn, readable by AE/Premiere (where you'd do your secondaries in RAW also)?


Thanks in advance!
 
AWESOME, I look forward to more! thanks
 
Uli Plank said:
While you stay RAW in the Adobe products and you can use whatever you have there (masks, tracking, the whole lot) I'd suggest DaVinci Resolve. Even for a one person shop it makes sense, and if you are able to learn the programs you mention you can learn that one too. Do your first light in RCX, move on and never look back. You need full blown secondaries for skin tones more often than not, and RCX doesn't have them. Would be a bit too much to expect from a free software, wouldn't it?
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Thanks Uli, I am switching my mind ... I think you are right. So my workflow will be redcine-x -> premier/ae/blender -> DaVinci
 
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