Re-Framing 4K for 720 HD and SD

[Paul Hazlett]

its an interesting concept but you are losing some on the dynamics of reframing with a different angle. I do think a combination of traditional and
and crop editing could work. easier to match action.

 

[Mark Mannschreck]

I really think you should be using a 16mm or 2/3inch lenses if you want to be shooting SD Cropped..

I'm talking about having the most room to re-frame in post if desired. Even using it for coverage in a pinch...

I agree that an SD crop may be too much - but looking at the 720p crops of the PJ grabs on a broadcast monitor looks REALLY good... If I'm finishing HD reframing may not be a replacement to having actual coverage, but a HUGE post option I wouldn't have if I had shot in HD. I also think you could get a distinct "look" using it often but properly... Now I am among the people who didn't really like the look of the camera shake added to the PJ short, it just looked a little too canned to my tastes - But the extra res is what makes it even possible. Done right, I believe you could make subtle or even extreme camera moves, add shake, or add faux handheld in post that doesn't have to look like bad Pan n Scan.

 

[Moir]

I'd expect cropping to be very useful for wildlife documentary work. Shoot at 4k with 35mm teles and then crop in post to get a larger image of the subject as needed. Shoot with 35mm wides at 4k for establishing shots and landscapes. Down-rez it all to 1080p or 720p - should all match perfectly, correct?

 

[Paul Hazlett]

as a "saver" type of operration I think its an excellent idea. if you need to make a cut for any reason a cut to a wide or tight would be right there.

 

[Mark Mannschreck]

I believe so. I do it all the time with HD to SD. I'm sure it will all be heavily impacted by the quality of your lenses, atmosphere, and the degree of the crop... Reframing for HD and SD projects will be among the first things I test with my camera. Since I won't have Redcode enabled FCP in the beginning I will probably take all the Redcode Raw 4k into a 720p project anyway and edit and crop as needed. I think we should start thinking about a place on Reduser.net to upload our actual tests! Wouldn't it be cool if there was eventually an actual Redcode section where we could download fellow users Redcode Raw files?