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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RCX-Pro, FCPX or DaVinci... For Personal small Fashion Films/Shorts Editing/Coloring?

Resolve will take you longer to learn than FCPX, but will give you finer control over the quality of your final image. But things like simple titles and transitions, you will have MUCH better control in FCPX.

It took me a lot of time and a lot of playing to get decent results out of Resolve. It won't be a quick process to go from "Never used it" to "This looks great". Even with training. It just takes time and playing with the various nodes and variables and internalizing and then more time.

In the long term, bouncing a project between FCPX and Resolve is SO MUCH EASIER AND BETTER than it used to be. When I first started using Resolve, around Version 7 or 8, there were all these conform issues I would run into. 90% of them are GONE. I know you said you only want to use 1 program, but don't be afraid to start wrapping your head around conforming 6 months from now. It's easier to learn that, than to learn color grading, in my opinion. But then, it's also a completely different skill set, and mentality.

If I were you, I'd start with FCPX and then expand into Resolve later. I'm aware that the Color/Look aspect is more important to you, but I think there are a lot of editorial things that you just won't have in Resolve that will make you bang your head against a wall.
 
I recommend Resolve. You can learn it (and other NLEs) from lynda.com.

I started with FCP 7, then FCPX, then Premiere CC and then Resolve as the editing tools got better. I still used Premiere for chroma keying because Resolve lacked it, but the newest Resolve (due this summer) has a chroma keying feature (and multi-cam), so I'm probably going to stop using Premiere completely for now.

Many people don't take Resolve seriously as an NLE, but I don't think they really gave it a fair shot because it was known as just a coloring app. It did lack some advanced features, but the newest Resolve should put an end to the hate, lol. Maybe I'm biased because I came from BMCC and at the time, Resolve was the best tool for editing CinemaDNG until the others caught up.
 
Ketch,

I was sort of in the same boat.

- FCP X + Plugin
- Resolve Lite @ 2k
- Or Wait for Fusion to come out on the Mac (free version already @ 4k output )

I've decided to swallow the 'Resolve' Pill next week (as the Free version will be ~4k) .... and then throw myself in 'Fusion' in the Summer.

AJ
 
DVR is way too much program for the stated need. It's a professional level tool with a steep learning curve and the requirement to use it at least weekly to stay fresh and current. It's like suggesting AE for making simple titles
 
Hi Ketch,
I use Resolve, I like the 3D options it has to match color and alignment.
Also AFX and Filmconvert.
Some times I record actions in psd and batch tif directories for very unique looks. I think you can achieve very unique looks in special clips like this that no editing suite can provide you.
Also Magic Bullet pro looks with a good library of LUT's can help.
 
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Much appreciated the coming comments,

I continue to read them and consider each comment given.

But I also like to add that this is something I will be using a LOT, as I intend to finish at list one project per month, this is what I love to do, so even with other matters at hand, I will give some weekly time to it to bring my personal projects to life without the need to always look for help elsewhere and depend on some one else's time table.
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
Much appreciated the coming comments,

I continue to read them and consider each comment given.

But I also like to add that this is something I will be using a LOT, as I intend to finish at list one project per month, this is what I love to do, so even with other matters at hand, I will give some weekly time to it to bring my personal projects to life without the need to always look for help elsewhere and depend on some one else's time table.
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Shooting and finishing really do go hand in hand. Either one make the results of the other better.
 
Elsie N said:
Shooting and finishing really do go hand in hand. Either one make the results of the other better.
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Yeah this has been the hardest thing for me to adjust to since I left Still Photography for Motion... And I dearly paid the price for it more then once...

ENOUGH!!

I am taking things back in my own hands... And hey... At list there will really be really just ONE man to blame... :)


Of course, as I said in other posts, when doing large work, I surely might not be doing it all, but I will be sure as hell NEVER to relinquish control of final EDIT/Color to any one... And that is a fact!

I prefer to NEVER do any work, rater then put my name on one that wasn't really done 100% by my liking.



But yeah... Studying has begin... DaVinci Resolve... Lets see were you take me... :)
 
FCP-X.

If you are in for flexible edits, fast edits or variations of some parts, etc.: FCP-X, skip anything else.

Once you got the muscle memory in FCP-X, anything else looks kind of stiff.

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But if you need only to clue some stuff in a row, the two other timelines are "fine" to a certain degree. In other words, not really a good idea. But for color, Da Vinci is certainly worth any hour spend to dive into it.
 
Currently on the ROAD on a rMBP+LG UM95 34" + ThunderRaid Mini 16TB.

i just really hate to have to use two platforms... That is my only issue, and Color is very important, I guess so important I realized that I would have no real choice but to learn th stiffer curve to use it for it.

As for EDIT, I just really hate to have to use a different program for it and have to roundtrip.
 
Roundtrips are not my favorite as well. I certainly get this. My best wishes.
 
Ketch, I have a feeling that Resolve will be your cup of tea because fashion films are kind of like stills in motion and a lot of what you will be doing is dialing in the look. Although I prefer other NLEs for pure editing purposes (as of Resolve 11), I have had no problem actually editing in Resolve as long as I'm not doing anything too complex. For example, multicam has not been possible up until V12. Compositing is kind of flaky in Resolve (V12 seems to be changing that). But getting an edit and doing basic audio are not that difficult. If color is a big priority, I would go with Resolve. If you need pure editing power I'd look elsewhere until V12 hits.

I also agree with Nick though. Learning an NLE and Resolve gives you the complete toolset you'll ultimately want. Roundtripping, especially once you figure out the workflow is not that hard. Now, mixing and matching all kinds of formats, that can be challenging. But if you're working primarily with R3Ds, you'll be totally fine.
 
Paul Provost said:
Resolve. Editing in v-12 when released in a few months will actually work now
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That'd be my suggestion as well. If you have to learn just one, Resolve 12 in July would be an effective compromise.
 
Thanks again guys n' girls (reads Meryem)...

Yeah, I have been spending this past couple of days sipping thru various vids for DaVinci, and I think I am going to stay with this decision and based on several recommendations do also to my priority at this time, I believe it well serve me well.

I will be also shooting some Narrative Short Films, needed to present the Studios while trying to lock down a Movie Package deal for 3 of my Films, but even this have a "Fashion" oriented look and ultimately here too Color will play a bigger role then all else (of course within it's limits) the Edited story needs still to make sense (reads RedDress fiasco... Lesson Learned)...

So I wanted to thanks every one once more for the kind participation, truly much appreciated... As always!!
 
David Battistella said:
i agree with zeb.
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I teach at local college part-time.

Between FCPX and Premiere (I teach AE and Maya as well and soon Resolve), beginners have an easier time with FCPX.

These are fresh adults of course.

Zombies not welcome.
 
Marc Wielage said:
That'd be my suggestion as well. If you have to learn just one, Resolve 12 in July would be an effective compromise.
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Great thread guys! So Resolve 12 (coming July or so) will come in a PC version as a NLE and be able to handle RAW Dragon files?
 
In the specific case Ketch lays out, which I would think includes a number of RedUsers, Resolve v12 is probably worth the learning curve to get to their color toolset and to be able to stay in one app. The open question is just how refined and fast the editorial process will be in the new version - the v11 editorial toolset fell well short of Apple/AVID/Adobe PP.

That said, there are some very powerful alternatives these days. FCP-X drives me bonkers (too much FCP7 muscle memory I guess) but with late model hardware it flys and there are some color tools you can add that are much better than the built ins.

Cheers - #19
 
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