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RAW vs Red Log Film

Jordan Buck

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Hey Guys,
This question probably has a really simple answer and should be something that I know the answer to.

We were running off the raw look on monitor for a few shots yesterday, and I had the understanding this was a look back to red log film, I realise now that this isnt the case, but want to know how in post if there is anyway to get back what we were seeing with the raw toggle turned on? Everything has come out quite a bit brighter than what we were looking at in the setting and we were shooting some lovely sunset silhouettes so would love to be able to get back to what we were looking at on the day.

Any help appreciated - bare with me still in the learning process with somethings with my epic.

Thanks,

Jordan
 
The Raw "look" in the monitor as I understand it is at around ISO 320. Just set your r3ds to that and adjust the white balance to your liking. I might be wrong, maybe other people can correct or confirm what I'm saying.
 
The native colour temperature of the sensor is daylight 5600K. If your colour temperature was set to something lower than that while shooting, setting it to 5600K will get you back some warmth.

Redcine-X Pro, when newly installed, defaults to automatically saving the sidecar RMD files with the original R3Ds which allows your changes to be saved. If you move the R3Ds, you should also move the RMDs to retain the changes.
 
Okay starting to make a little more sense now - Thanks. what color profile is this running off ? If I had it set to RCG3 I guess the great thing is I have a lot to play with in terms of DR.
 
follow up to that- i just edited my first RED footage and used red log film in Resolve based on online forums. whats the difference or best one to use between red log and red log film?
 
Jordan Buck said:
We were running off the raw look on monitor for a few shots yesterday, and I had the understanding this was a look back to red log film, I realise now that this isnt the case, but want to know how in post if there is anyway to get back what we were seeing with the raw toggle turned on? Everything has come out quite a bit brighter than what we were looking at in the setting and we were shooting some lovely sunset silhouettes so would love to be able to get back to what we were looking at on the day.
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How was the on-set monitor calibrated? What were the viewing conditions? I'm never convinced that the monitor on set is good enough to judge color or the look (unless it's in an experienced DIT's black tent).

My opinion is that RedLogFilm will give you all the room in the world to color correct whatever you need to do in Resolve. Most of it hinges on the skill of the DP, and some of it lies with the skill of the colorist. But I wouldn't consider anything you see on the set to be anything but temporary.
 
Hey Marc, For what I am talking about we were running of the RED touch screen, I definitely agree with you and would never rely on my onboard and pay close attention to my histo but to see something on your monitor and then once its in RCX being 2/3 stops difference is slightly worrying - but my question was more on the lines of that I think in RCX I am not looking at what I was in the field, and wanted to clear up what exactly going to red RAW is showing me as opposed to what Red log film is, as its the difference between those that are so drastic, on the second day of shooting we just shot RCG3 and we referenced red log film to make sure we weren't clipping etc, which worked well and we got some great results.
 
Jordan Buck said:
Hey Marc, For what I am talking about we were running of the RED touch screen, I definitely agree with you and would never rely on my onboard and pay close attention to my histo but to see something on your monitor and then once its in RCX being 2/3 stops difference is slightly worrying - but my question was more on the lines of that I think in RCX I am not looking at what I was in the field, and wanted to clear up what exactly going to red RAW is showing me as opposed to what Red log film is, as its the difference between those that are so drastic, on the second day of shooting we just shot RCG3 and we referenced red log film to make sure we weren't clipping etc, which worked well and we got some great results.
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What ISO did you shoot with on set? Changing ISO in-camera will increase/decrease brightness to your monitor. "Raw Check" is always static (close to 320 ISO).
 
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