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RAID recommendation for REDCODE / ARRIRAW 3.4K openGate

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Ronny Langer

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Hi All,

need recommendations for a good onset RAID for a feature with two Dragon's or ARRIRAW open Gate 2.1 GBit/s.
The Unit should be used with my Mac Pro Tower 5.1, 12-Core and a Thunderbolt Mac in the Future.

For ARRIRAW I need a SAS HBA-Card to connect the Codex Dual-Dock. So is it a practical solution to connect the RAID to the same Card, or is the Datarate affected in that way?
The RAID should handle at least a Datarate of 300 MByte/s.

Is there a Thunderbolt AND SAS or USB 3.0 RAID out there with >300 MBit/s?
What would you recommend?

Kind regards
Ronny
 
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Ronny Langer said:
For ARRIRAW I need a SAS HBA-Card to connect the Codex Dual-Dock. So is it a practical solution to connect the RAID to the same Card, or is the Datarate affected in that way?
The RAID should handle at least a Datarate of 300 MByte/s.
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The Dual Dock requires a non-RAID SAS card, like the Atto H680. Unless you have a drive chassis with internal RAID controllers, you cannot use the same card.
 
I'm researching in similar territory.

OWC Makes a 4 Bay Rackmountable SAS RAID and one with USB 3.0, FW800 and others.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/RAID/Rack_Mount/

Ronny Langer said:
Hi All,

need recommendations for a good onset RAID for a feature with two Dragon's or ARRIRAW open Gate 2.1 GBit/s.
The Unit should be used with my Mac Pro Tower 5.1, 12-Core and a Thunderbolt Mac in the Future.

For ARRIRAW I need a SAS HBA-Card to connect the Codex Dual-Dock. So is it a practical solution to connect the RAID to the same Card, or is the Datarate affected in that way?
The RAID should handle at least a Datarate of 300 MByte/s.

Is there a Thunderbolt AND SAS or USB 3.0 RAID out there with >300 MBit/s?
What would you recommend?

Kind regards
Ronny
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If you want affordable, I would have a look at ProAvio. I've had their Editbox for years running off an R380. Worked well. Also have rackmount version which just had two of the bays die when I upgraded to Yosemite and the R680. Strange coincidence I guess. That one had been working flawlessly for three years.
 
Thanks Steve for the recommendation.

Here is the link if anyone needs it.

http://proavio.com/

Steve Sherrick said:
If you want affordable, I would have a look at ProAvio. I've had their Editbox for years running off an R380. Worked well. Also have rackmount version which just had two of the bays die when I upgraded to Yosemite and the R680. Strange coincidence I guess. That one had been working flawlessly for three years.
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If you're doing lots of pushing and pulling on that RAID (offloading while also accessing footage for playback/color/etc) then aim for more than 400MB/s. You'll eat that up with the dual dock. You should get 800MB/s+ off a Raid 5 or 6 chassis running 8 disks with newer 3TB/4TB drives paired with a good card like an Areca 1882 or R680 even though the Mac 5,1 is a PCIe 2.0 x4 slot. Then put that card into a TB PCIe chassis like the Magma, Sonnet, Akitio later when ready for the nMP. There's not much to gain with a newer PCIe 3.0 card unless you plan to extend it into TB 3.0 use which has a TBD release. The 1882 and R680 will definitely saturate a TB 2.0 port assuming you have enough disks or few SSD's.

Here you need speed, redundancy and size which is reserved for more than a half dozen spinning disks which also means you're spending your two x4 slots in the tower to SAS HBA's (something like H680 for the dual dock) and R680 for the RAID, leaving only a RR-X for Slot 2 or USB3 card. The H680 can host ESATA Red Readers if you run low on slots with a fanout cable.

Caldigit and Sonnet make some nice Chassis but you may want to find an empty 8 bay and hand pick your drives and Raid card.
 
We've got a few Lacie 8tb RAIDS (tb1) that have worked really well. One of them did get hosed, but the 2 year warranty (might be 3) was super easy to RMA and get back quickly. RMA's go to Colorado I think. They even ship you a hefty box to safely RMA any warranty items.

Be sure to look into the warranty duration and RMA policy for whatever manufacturer you go with.

We'll be getting 4 of these beasts later this year. https://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10622

JBOD 1 > Stills
JBOD 2 > Stills Backup (every hour to time machine of JBOD 1 and realtime sync to Box unlimited biz account)

JBOD 3 > Motion
JBOD 4 > Motion Backup (every hour to time machine of JBOD 3 and realtime sync to Box unlimited biz account)
 
The Lacie is nice being 1RU but VERY deep. Not friendly for a cart.
 
Oh that's nice.

8 Bays for 1 rack unit of space!

Do they make one this small with miniSAS ports?


Mat_G said:
We've got a few Lacie 8tb RAIDS (tb1) that have worked really well. One of them did get hosed, but the 2 year warranty (might be 3) was super easy to RMA and get back quickly. RMA's go to Colorado I think. They even ship you a hefty box to safely RMA any warranty items.

Be sure to look into the warranty duration and RMA policy for whatever manufacturer you go with.

We'll be getting 4 of these beasts later this year. https://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10622

JBOD 1 > Stills
JBOD 2 > Stills Backup (every hour to time machine of JBOD 1 and realtime sync to Box unlimited biz account)

JBOD 3 > Motion
JBOD 4 > Motion Backup (every hour to time machine of JBOD 3 and realtime sync to Box unlimited biz account)
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