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Quick Release options?

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I'm looking for a quick release that I'll be using on the Scarlet with the Kessler's CineSlider and also their Hercules head.

From a phone call with Kessler, either of these will work.

Giottos M621
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/318567-REG/Giottos_MH621_M621_Quick_Release_Assembly.html

with the Giottos Long Quick Release Plate for M621 Quick Release System
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/318570-REG/Giottos_MH611_Long_Quick_Release_Plate.html

Manfrotto 577 Rapid Connect Adapter with Sliding Mounting Plate (501PL)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/241139-REG/Manfrotto_577_577_Rapid_Connect_Adapter.html

with the 504PLONG Long Quick-Release Mounting Plate
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...4PLONG_Long_Quick_Release_Mounting_Plate.html

I have almost no experience with quick releases.

Are there other, better choices? And of these two, which would be the best choice?

Thanks!
 
I almost posted a very similar inquiry before seeing this. I'm in a similar spot, except I'm trying to find a quick-release that will bolt to the top of a Redrock shoulder rig, which has incompatible hole-spacing to the Manfrotto 357 I just received. To your question though, I've used the Manfrotto QR systems in plenty of other situations, they're solid and reliable in my experience.
 
Nick Junkersfeld said:
I almost posted a very similar inquiry before seeing this. I'm in a similar spot, except I'm trying to find a quick-release that will bolt to the top of a Redrock shoulder rig, which has incompatible hole-spacing to the Manfrotto 357 I just received. To your question though, I've used the Manfrotto QR systems in plenty of other situations, they're solid and reliable in my experience.
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Nick - which particular QR did you use?

Now that I look at that 357, I see that there are just so many choices!!

It's hard to evaluate which is 'best'?

Hopefully, they all would fit on that Hercules head or the CineSlider?

As to the 357, when I look at the "Manfrotto 357LONG Pro Video Quick Release Plate, Long"
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/241158-REG/Manfrotto_357PLONG_357LONG_Pro_Video_Quick.html

It looks like the screws might be movable? Are they in a fixed position even for the Long plate?
 
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I'm actually pretty surprised at how few choices there are out there, my ideal QR would be similar to the Manfrotto, but billet with a cheese base for mounting flexibility.

The 357 and 577 have the same base, but the 357 has the long plate, a lot more sliding travel (3 inches vs. .80 of an inch, because of the long plate) and comes with two 1/4-20 and two 3/8 screws. The 357 is also cheaper by a few bucks, I think that's because the 577 is an OEM replacement for some of their heads while the 357 is considered an accessory (best guess). I'd go with the 357 in your position.

Btw, if anyone has better options Les and I are unaware of, I'd love to hear what they are!
 
Nick - I must be blind and didn't notice that it came with that longer plate!!!

And I guess your problem with it was the spacing on the bottom of the adapter, not the spacing on the plate connecting to the camera?

I think I'll wait until I actually receive my Scarlet before I think about a shoulder rig, so hopefully I've got all my purchasing decisions for accessories taken care of.

Thanks!
 
I use both the Giottos 621 and the Manfrotto 357 and have some info that might be of some use. Some things to consider are that the 621 and 357 bases and plates are interchangeable with each other. The Giottos ships with a short plate, whereas the Manfrotto ships with a long plate. The longer Manfrotto plate is easier to work with when using multiple screws, such as a combination of 1/4' or 3/8" to the Epic's Arri Dovetail plate. It also has more travel in the base to get a good balance. The Giottos also has a few subtle differences. The shorter plate has a groove that helps center the plate in the base. The included tie-down screws are also very wide, so it's very difficult to use both the 1/4" and 3/8" screws together on the same shorter plate. The Giottos base has a nub that normally prevents the locking tab from rotating fully (meant as a convenience to prevent over-rotation when loosening the screw). The nub is easily bypassed by ratcheting the locking screw, and is very convenient when setup correctly.

For heavier cameras like the Epic, I suggest using the Manfrotto 357 because it has more adjustability, and a very secure locking mechanism. The Giottos is also great, but if you order it, you will see it's designed specifically for lighter cameras.

Do not get the 504PLONG plate; it is ONLY compatible with Manfrotto's 504 head. Also, I DO NOT recommend the Manfrotto 577 plate system; it has characteristics that will drive you nuts. The plate will load and unload from the rear of the base ONLY, and the plate is not reversible. The travel in the base is also very short, about a 1/2" travel.
 
Mathew - thanks for the detailed and informative critique of those quick releases!
 
Ditto on what Mathew said.

357 and 577 are different size platform and not compatible with each other. Also, 577 system is way too small for a camera like a Scarlet.
 
Does the Manfrotto plate only slide in from the ends or can you clip it on from the top too (like a Sachtler touch n go for instance?)?
 
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