Professional XLR attachment

[caseyhayward]

It's not that I doubt your guys experience, I just obviously don't understand your workflow. I'm confused about what type of situation you're talking about where double system sound is unworkable but dealing with RAW ungraded files and 3k footage isn't.

Easy, any doc where you are working with real subjects unused to being around film production. Imagine being in a small room with an emotionally traumatized person (from war, cancer, poverty etc.) and now add an extraneous sound person who has to hit the sticks for sync every time the 8 minute CF card runs out. I have been in plenty of situations where double-system is out of the question not just because of the technology but the human element as well. A built-in mic is not the solution to this challenge.

I'm not sure why I wouldn't work with 3K though just cause I demand better audio quality. This equation doesn't add up (higher quality footage=lower quality audio options)

 

[kmikami]

Easy, any doc where you are working with real subjects unused to being around film production. Imagine being in a small room with an emotionally traumatized person (from war, cancer, poverty etc.) and now add an extraneous sound person who has to hit the sticks for sync every time the 8 minute CF card runs out.

I didn't say anything about a dedicated sound operator and I don't think double system necessarily implies that. Why not mount a mic to the top of the camera and mount a cigarette pack sized wav recorder to the side of the camera? Hit record on your audio recorder, hit record on Scarlet, and off you go. Some minor syncing in post and you're done. If there's a problem with your external audio system, you have the feed from the built in mic as a backup. Assuming there is a built in mic.

In fact, the video side of Scarlet is once again the limiting factor here. It's not the sound guy that needs to stop once the 8gb cf card is full. You can probably start the audio and keep it running throughout the entire interview. If it's the human angle you're worried about, isn't stopping to change the CF card on the Scarlet more of an intrusion than anything that's going to happen on the audio side?

 

[Christoffer Glans]

Having a mic on the camera makes any sound unusable on a feature/shortfilm production. If your not doing a movie with close ups all the time.

If you don't have sound on your video files then dailies wont be possible. Red Ray will enable us to play from our CF cards and without sound it's useless.

You can probably start the audio and keep it running throughout the entire interview

Do you even know how hellish the editing and postsync will be? I for sure don't have time to sync my footage before editing. This is 2008 for Zeus sake.
It seems to me that you kmikami haven't been "out there" in the real world working with this. And if you have, you seem to have worked with just a certain kind of footage all the time.

Have you even thought about the workflow of documentaries, feature/shortfilms, television etc.?

And a built in mic is not ever as good as the ones I own. I never used a built in mic on any camera because they truly suck. Red shouldn't bother making a built in mic on a professional camera because we all know that users will mount a good mic on the camera if they want an onboard mic.

Sound shouldn't be taken lightly, both when speaking workflow and quality.
There shouldn't be a problem having miniXLR's if the size matters.