Probably a dumb question about 5K

[Adam Rook]

In anticipation of the arrival of my Scarlet-W I have been having loads of fun downloading R3Ds from around the world just to make sure my setup can handle things efficiently. To my delight it all does. So this may be a dumb question but some of the files I've downloaded are from older Epics in 5K. Is there really any difference in the performance of the R3Ds from older Epics in 5K compared to newer 5K R3Ds from Scarlet-W's?

Or is a 5K R3D just a 5K R3D? With exception to compression, ratio, and all that jazz.

Also does anyone have any interesting Scarlet-W R3D's I can download and play with, and torture myself with until mine arrives?

Thanks guys!

 

[Bob Gundu]

All the same.

 

[Austin St. John]

The only possible difference would be Dragon sensor of the Scarlet-W, where as the Epic could either be Dragon or Mysterium-X sensor. If it's an Epic Dragon, it's apples to apples, if not, you may see some differences in your computer's performance.

 

[Ulf Krentz]

All the same.

Hmm, not entirely sure about that. "5K older Epic" might be even referring to MX sensor, which had its own characteristics especially in highlight roll off, noise and a different physical size at 5K compared to 5K dragon. Also it is said that weapon guts lead to a much better image of the same sensor, so what can go wrong ;-)

 

[Bob Gundu]

Hmm, not entirely sure about that. "5K older Epic" might be even referring to MX sensor, which had its own characteristics especially in highlight roll off, noise and a different physical size at 5K compared to 5K dragon. Also it is said that weapon guts lead to a much better image of the same sensor, so what can go wrong ;-)

His question was regarding performance, not quality. :wink5:

 

[Nick Morrison]

In anticipation of the arrival of my Scarlet-W I have been having loads of fun downloading R3Ds from around the world just to make sure my setup can handle things efficiently. To my delight it all does. So this may be a dumb question but some of the files I've downloaded are from older Epics in 5K. Is there really any difference in the performance of the R3Ds from older Epics in 5K compared to newer 5K R3Ds from Scarlet-W's?

Or is a 5K R3D just a 5K R3D? With exception to compression, ratio, and all that jazz.

Also does anyone have any interesting Scarlet-W R3D's I can download and play with, and torture myself with until mine arrives?

Thanks guys!

Scarlet-W will be cleaner than Epic-Dragon at 5K.

Otherwise the same.

 

[Jason Han]

There are subtle differences in the processing of the R3D's, for example - You cannot run Scarlet-W R3Ds from older Premiere, only the newest update will handle it

 

[Adam Rook]

Hey thanks for the feedback guys. I kinda figured Dragon to Dragon would be the same or similar but thought I'd make absolutely certain.
I guess I should have clarified some of the R3Ds I'm playing with are in fact MX and don't slow my system. Neither does Drgaon 5K.

I'm not sure if my doing that helped or hurt. Now I'm jonesin even more for my Scarlet to get here.

 

[Marc Wielage]

In anticipation of the arrival of my Scarlet-W I have been having loads of fun downloading R3Ds from around the world just to make sure my setup can handle things efficiently. To my delight it all does. So this may be a dumb question but some of the files I've downloaded are from older Epics in 5K. Is there really any difference in the performance of the R3Ds from older Epics in 5K compared to newer 5K R3Ds from Scarlet-W's?

I think the dynamic range is better and the noise is lower on the newer cameras. The revised OLPF's helped. A couple of years ago, I worked on a feature where some scenes were shot on an Epic and about a week of pickups were shot on a newer Dragon, and I felt the latter looked better and were easier to color-correct. In truth, I honestly believe a great DP can get great pictures out of anything.

 

[Adam Rook]

Marc I completely agree. A great DP can get great images out of anything. I've seen some pretty amazing stuff still from R1s. There are some great productions using MX. I'm anxious to be able to dive into my own R3Ds. You can push those images so far if you need to. I can only imagine how wonderful the newer R3Ds will be.