, prerecord mode... wanted...

[Denis Buhot]

Hi all, I'm getting worried... prerec mode missing is a real issue for me. Sure, it's not at the top of the list for most of epic users, but I just wonder what has to be fixed before that feature gets the necessary attention... Please, Red people, understand that without a prerec mode, epic is useless in various efp/eng situations !

 

[Erwin van Dijck]

Would love to see a few seconds pre-record added as well...

 

[Mark Deeble]

+1 - not quite a 'make or break' feature, but incredibly useful - esp for wildlife efp.

 

[Larry Gebhardt]

It would be a huge addition for me. I just spent a week around Big Sur in california shooting landscapes and wildlife and shot about 1.5 TB of stuff. Could have cut that to 1/4 or less of the recorded time with a pre-record feature....waiting for just the right shape and energy waves, etc.

How long is the pre-record time with the Red One?

Larry

 

[John Parkin]

Yeah this would be a massive help for me, shooting extreme sports. Only need a second or so.

 

[Denis Buhot]

larry, prerecord time on the red one is 10". You can extend it to 30".

 

[Ben Roper]

I've heard from a rep that it will be included on future firmware - I would use this loads! Not just for wildlife either

 

[Uli Plank]

There are many kinds of wildlife…

 

[Reiner B]

Red,
you will not get many users on this page that want a pre-record feature. Because pre-recording is a key feature for documentary and wildlife filmmakers. So many of them don’t buy a red cause this feature is missing.
If Red will implement the feature soon this will change. But Red has to implement it soon cause many documentary filmmakers migrate to other cameras like Arri Alexa due this feature.

Reiner

 

[Mark Deeble]

Red,
you will not get many users on this page that want a pre-record feature. Because pre-recording is a key feature for documentary and wildlife filmmakers. So many of them don’t buy a red cause this feature is missing.
If Red will implement the feature soon this will change.

Reiner

It is already changing - but the introduction of a pre-record feature would really speed it up. Hopefully the take-up of the Epic by larger wildlife production units like the BBC NHU will make this happen sooner rather than later.l

 

[Yusuf Thakur]

Red,
you will not get many users on this page that want a pre-record feature. Because pre-recording is a key feature for documentary and wildlife filmmakers. So many of them don’t buy a red cause this feature is missing.
If Red will implement the feature soon this will change. But Red has to implement it soon cause many documentary filmmakers migrate to other cameras like Arri Alexa due this feature.

Reiner

It was and has always been there on the REDONE have used it for years, yes the Epic does not have it and I would love to have it too.

Yusuf Thakur
VFX,Dubai.
www.vfxme.com

 

[IAN SUN]

Yep, love it on my R1, desperately need it on my little 400fps monster!

 

[Denis Buhot]

yes, I confess..

yes, I confess..

Yep, love it on my R1, desperately need it on my little 400fps monster!

I was disappointed that it didn't show up on last build :-( I'm confused and I hope this is no bad omen... I've been waiting eagerly for a sleep-mode on my R1 that was similarly announced "on the way", that was almost deal-breaking to me.... and that proved finally a feature impossible to enable !

 

[Antony M]

Even more worrying is the fact that myself and several others have asked Red when pre-roll will be coming many, many times, and we haven't received a single answer from them.

Why the silence?

 

[Greg Marshall]

Sure could use this as well. Used it extensively on a recent penguin-leopard seal shoot w/R1 in Antarctic... incredibly helpful when things are unpredictable. Would, of course, also be great to have a "delete last" function if the action never develops.

 

[Isaac Babcock]

Pre-record please...ASAP. I never knew how crucial this feature was until I got used to it on the Red One. Now I curse everytime I miss that orca emerges from the water and I'm not rolling, and have hours of takes where I am rolling and nothing emerges in frame.

Pre-record is the #1 feature I would like at this point.

#2 is still sleep mode, but it has slipped way below the want for pre-record.

Please and thank you.

 

[Michael Brennan]

My understanding is that there needs to be hardware in the camera to achieve this. If it isn't there in the form of a kind of RAM buffer it cant be done.
The issue with hitting the record stop button every now and then to make short clips more easily deletable is that according to the law of sod just as you hit stop button the action happens.

Perhaps what could be done using software is a way to mark portions of a recording, without interrupting the recording? Similar shot markers exist on news cameras.


Lets say you are rolling on a long shot of a highway, waiting for the right combination of vehicles to come around the corner, say a truck in each lane of the 3 lane highway, filling the frame with heavy rigs.
You'll want 10 seconds of a lead into the shot.

You start recording, then every minute or so of rubbish action, you press an assignable button that marks as potentially unwanted, the previous minute or so of recording. (the period could be selectable to between previous one or two minutes or the time between last delete).

Pushing the button just creates a record of the timecode and does not affect the actual recording which continues on, without a missed frame.
The marker could have an offset of 10 seconds or more. This gives you at least a 10 second lead in should the trucks come around the corner just as you push the delete mark button.

Once you have the shot and have stopped recording using the rec start stop button, the camera will ask you if you want to delete the marked shots. If in doubt you say no, if you are sure you go ahead.

The other approach is you push the button after the action happens. You may or may not want to continue uninterrupted recording, it doesn't matter. When you finally hit the record start stop button you are given an option to delete everything in the last file, except what has been marked. This would work well if you are recording speculatively for long periods of time, for example, waiting for wildlife to leave its nest/burrow or waiting for that 100ft high section of glacier to break off.

There is potential to get confused of course and delete the good shot and be left holding the fodder!


Mike Brennan

 

[Denis Buhot]

My understanding is that there needs to be hardware in the camera to achieve this. If it isn't there in the form of a kind of RAM buffer it cant be done.
Mike Brennan

May be true, Mike, but why was it announced "on the road map" at early stages by red people, then confirmed and never announced to have been left aside ? And why was it successfully enabled on the red one with no extra-hardware ? Hope you're wrong, because we trust announcements, and may make or have made wrong decisions !

 

[Michael Brennan]

enabled on the red one with no extra-hardware

Im not saying that the hardware isn't already in the Epic, I'm assuming that it isn't or they would have enabled or talked about it by now?

Based on other cameras, if there isn't a ram buffer already in the camera it would be convoluted to install it as an upgrade within the camera body.

Marking shots for deletion is an alternative.. maybe?




Mike Brennan

 

[Ivan G]

Has pre record been enabled?