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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Prepare...

Jim,
May I ask why 120 hours? As I am impressed.

I guess the old statement, "who needs sleep", but really thats awesome, Kudos Jim, that shows a commitment to something.

If the ideas (Red Ideas) or problems don't stop then the mind does not either as result sleep is not an option, thats what I am guessing.
 
ibloom said:
...Their only alternative is to wait for Redcine support. They can't snap their fingers and make it so...
IBloom

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REDCINE will support the Build 16 official release... obviously.

Jim
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Ian,

Based on Jim's message (see # 104) we will get B16 at the same time that Redcine will be able to support such build.:love:
 
Häakon said:
Thanks for your attention to the matter Jim. Please forgive me (and the several others who made posts!) as it wasn't "obvious" from your first post in this thread where you mentioned "Your files (yes 4K 16:9) will open in RED Alert! (first app to support B16)." It's great to hear that REDCine support will be available from day one as well. I can only assume that with the announcement of working 16:9 clips in Quicktime, it means 4K 16:9 files will work within REDCine too?

I'm with you, SF Geek... I have the same problems with my workflow. I'm crossing my fingers that all the resources have gone into making Build 16 as stable as possible and all of our troubles will be over soon!
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SF and Haakon... I am sure that when we solve the workflow issues you will have some other request. Human nature. If I just had (xxx)... then I would be happy. That's OK. I embrace it.

Jim
 
Jim,

You are changing so many people's lives… for the better, I hope you are feeling really good about it.

Sleep well.
Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel Cambier said:
Jim,

You are changing so many people's lives… for the better, I hope you are feeling really good about it.

Sleep well.
Emmanuel
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No kidding... Big time!!!:w00t:
 
I want immortality and a faster than light space drive and I'll be happy... that's all I need. Wait... immortality, faster than light space drive and this ashtray. That's all I need... and and this paddle game...
 
Jannard said:
SF and Haakon... I am sure that when we solve the workflow issues you will have some other request. Human nature. If I just had (xxx)... then I would be happy. That's OK. I embrace it.

Jim
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Actually, I've been very pleased with my RED since Crimson and REDCine are working decently happily with each other. Come now, I haven't been busting your balls for awhile now! :-) I was just worried when you said that "RED Alert! would be the first app which would work with Build 16" that it would break my current workflow, and I simply remarked that I don't think I would consider upgrading until the proper post pieces are in place again. Doesn't mean I'm anti-Build 16. :bleh:

I think many seem critical because you have provided this unprecedented level of communication with the public through every chain in your company, and it's the first time most of us have had the opportunity to influence a product so profoundly for the better. You yourself are the one who declared, "the camera will never be finished." In that same mindset, we are just trying to prioritize our concerns. I do think that SF Geek has some valid issues... the latest build of REDCine was released back in February, and there are some frustrating bugs which still haven't been addressed. Maybe that's because all of the energy has been diverted to Build 16 and making that work solidly, but how are we to know? Call it "human nature" if you like, but I don't believe any of these requests have been unnecessary or founded by unrealistic expectations. That being said, I apologize if any of my remarks have pushed your buttons tonight. I am still a fan!
 
The red camera and the red team are outstanding, R16 looks excellent and the dedication of the company and its customers is great. Thanks!

The postproduction beta workflow and the lock-out of the mayor and marketleading post companies however are *the* main concern of many red-customers and users worldwide.

As R16 is announced as the last obstacle before finally other companies are allowed to support redcode i suppose many readers were surprised to read (or misunderstood) that R16 would only work with RA.
 
laguun said:
The red camera and the red team are outstanding, R16 looks excellent and the dedication of the company and its customers is great. Thanks!

The postproduction beta workflow and the lock-out of the mayor and marketleading post companies however are *the* main concern of many red-customers and users worldwide.

As R16 is announced as the last obstacle before finally other companies are allowed to support redcode i suppose many readers were surprised to read (or misunderstood) that R16 would only work with RA.
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Alpha Build 16 only works with RED Alert! Release Build 16 will work with REDCINE and then we start working on the SDK so others can join in. That has always been the plan.

Jim
 
You can't do the massive changes we've done in build 16 and support 4+ apps in parallel (RC, RA, QT, RL plus all the tools you don't see).

There are 50+ things we've been tuning and reworking on the camera and post side. We've rebuilt things again and again and again to come with with the best solutions. Now that we're almost there, the post side is starting to catch up. Things have to flow in the proper order or everything would take 10 times longer. Internally, everything happens with RA first and then propagates to the other apps.
 
Can't wait for 16! blue channel looks amazing, what an improvement.
As far as redcine goes, I would much prefer to pay for the software and have it work reliably; I'm sure it will in time. For now bring on 16 and red alert !
Aloha
-A
 
Poi Boy said:
Can't wait for 16! blue channel looks amazing, what an improvement.
As far as redcine goes, I would much prefer to pay for the software and have it work reliably; I'm sure it will in time. For now bring on 16 and red alert !
Aloha
-A
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How much? :-)

Jim
 
Jannard said:
Alpha Build 16 only works with RED Alert! Release Build 16 will work with REDCINE and then we start working on the SDK so others can join in. That has always been the plan.

Jim
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Does that mean that you haven't begun working on the SDK?
 
tlorenzo said:
Does that mean that you haven't begun working on the SDK?
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SDK work started before build 16 but had to pause through all the changes happening with 16. SDK picks up full steam after RC is going. They're all linked together.
 
Great! That's really generous of you Poi Boy to pay for all of us. ;)

Mahalo, Poi Boy!

(uhmmm... that's what you meant, right?)
 
I'm happy with the workflow so far. I've processed about 500 hours of footage in the last two months with no issues. Both through Redcine and RedAlert/Redline depending on the requirements of the job. No problems dealing with Redalert here if you put me on the alpha! Please! Please! Please!

Pleeeeease!
 
REDCINE... now $1500. As soon as we sell 1000 seats we will get it as stable as any other software application!

Jim
 
Jannard said:
REDCINE... now $1500. As soon as we sell 1000 seats we will get it as stable as any other software application!

Jim
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RED store still hasn't the software category... could be just one of Jim's jokes ... or I'm wrong here!?
 
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