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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Premiere and Epic Audio

Tim Morten said:
I've been very impressed with PPro and Adobe's presence here in the forums, but when Vegas beats them to the punch with Epic audio support, that raises some questions. I hope there is good news from Adobe soon...
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To be fair, Vegas was also the first NLE to offer proper real-time playback for R3Ds back in May 2009 - almost a year before Adobe made it popular. Among a lot of other features and interface characteristics Vegas has traditionally pioneered. Many of which have made it into FCP X and branded "revolutionary" by Apple. Of late, in terms of R3D support, Adobe has been well ahead of the curve. Audio aside, Premiere Pro still has the better implementation for R3Ds, and got any form of native support well before Sony or Avid.

But, yes, it is of some concern that the Epic importer hasn't got an update for months now and is still treated like an Preview release (not even Beta!). Let's hope this means an updated version is around the corner.
 
Hey Adobe?! What's the deal? We have work to do! Why are you not fixing the EPIC importer?

Just recently I decided to leave my beloved Vegas for Premiere (because it just runs smoother with R3Ds) and now that happens...
 
Dear Adobe -

Thanks for doing such a great job with CS5.5! Any update on when Epic audio will be supported?
 
Much like their importer, Adobe has been silent. :)
 
CS6 should be out in Q1. So I guess it will be a feature of it like Epic image support was part of CS5.5.
 
Ijust had the hardest time figuring getting audio out, so I went the simple route and dumped MXF files through RCX and into PPRo..

I did scare myself silly when I brought the Scarlet r3d's into premiere, and it was just noise, I thought my jerry-rigged setup had just destroyed an entire interview.
 
Zac,

Thanks for the heads up on your work around, I've got 6 interviews this week wasn't sure how to tackle the audio issue. Just finished testing yours and a few others method on the forum and it works perfectly.
 
it was bad enough having to buy CS5.5 to get updated color science when I just bought CS5. I hope we don't have to keep upgrading just to get shit fixed that should be working in the first place
 
Bing Bailey said:
it was bad enough having to buy CS5.5 to get updated color science when I just bought CS5. I hope we don't have to keep upgrading just to get shit fixed that should be working in the first place
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Get the subscription. $50 a month and free updates.
 
Adam Beck said:
Zac,

Thanks for the heads up on your work around, I've got 6 interviews this week wasn't sure how to tackle the audio issue. Just finished testing yours and a few others method on the forum and it works perfectly.
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Glad I could help, I had to stress out over it, shooting an interview on friday night, and thinking I lost all the audio. and having to deliver sunday morning.
 
I am all about Adobe. Love the Vegas' GUI, nothing like it out there, but I also love what Adobe is doing. However, it is a real shame that a small patch couldn't be released in between versions to add audio support. Hopefully we'll see some fancy/major audio update that will make us feel there was a reason for the delay... But till then, and if that isn't the case, it really sucks that there was no quick-fix patch to add audio support in between releases.
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
I am all about Adobe. Love the Vegas' GUI, nothing like it out there, but I also love what Adobe is doing. However, it is a real shame that a small patch couldn't be released in between versions to add audio support. Hopefully we'll see some fancy/major audio update that will make us feel there was a reason for the delay... But till then, and if that isn't the case, it really sucks that there was no quick-fix patch to add audio support in between releases.
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Couldn't agree more Roberto. Adobe has spent a lot of time and money promoting "The Switch," but apparently not as much time and money making Premiere work for an important segment of their users. I wouldn't be quite as worked up about this if they hadn't had a significant presence here on Reduser extolling the virtues of Premiere. So I spring the $900 for CS5.5 only to find out that audio doesn't work. You've got to be kidding.

Then I thought surely there would be a quick fix. Months later, still waiting ... sound of crickets chirping.
 
Maz Mawlawi said:
see thread here for potential work around... :drool: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...etc-update-Cs5-5&p=919816&posted=1#post919816
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Thank you for the update Maz:

Maz Mawlawi said:
ok guys...I GOT AUDIO TO WORK IN PREMIERE PRO CS5.5!!!!... :scared: but it takes a specific weird trick that you have to do in a specific order for it to work (not sure why but I am posting exactly what worked for me). This is on a window machine. But I believe it should work on a MAC....
Here are the steps: (please follow them precisely)

1) download and install LightRoom 4
2) move C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5\Plug-ins\Common\ImporterRED.prm to new backup folder of your choice
3) move C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5\32\ImporterREDServer.exe to new backup folder of your choice

4) now copy C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4\Support\DynamicLinkMediaServer\dynamiclinkmediaserver\1.0\Plug-ins\Common\ImporterRED.prm to
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5\Plug-ins\Common

5) Copy C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4\Support\DynamicLinkMediaServer\dynamiclinkmediaserver\1.0\ImporterREDServer.exe to
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5\32
6) launch Premiere Cs 5.5...you will now notice that NONE of your R3d are loading anymore....don't panic! Close Premiere and follow the next step
7) copy ONLY the original ImporterRED.prm that you copied initially to a backup folder and replace the existing (broken) one.
8) launch Premiere you can load your Epic file with audio support!

I have not tested its stability enough yet...but I have been editing for an hour and I have had no Problems. THANKS David McGavran for the hint!!!! :)

I don't want to start a new thread on this until other people confirm that it is working for them or until David says it's ok to advertise this. Keep in mind this is UNSUPORTED BY ADOBE!
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Miltos Pilalitos said:
Interesting work-around Maz but since I am in the middle of a production I can't give it a try.

It makes you wonder though... If Adobe has a new RED IMPORTER for Lightroom 4 why don't they update their RED IMPORTER page (same since last May)???
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It is quite simple actually, no conspiracy theories needed. It takes a lot of time to spin up a supported release. Plus we get drops from RED every month or so and we have to decide which version to release. We have to split our resources between always being right out front and working on the next major release of our products..

Cheers

Dave
 
David McGavran said:
It is quite simple actually, no conspiracy theories needed. It takes a lot of time to spin up a supported release. Plus we get drops from RED every month or so and we have to decide which version to release. We have to split our resources between always being right out front and working on the next major release of our products..

Cheers

Dave
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Thanks a lot for the ability to grab those updated files!!!

Any chance you could set up a link to a zip of just the few files we needed?

I hate to install more software, one more thing to go wrong!!!

Thanks!!!
 
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