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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

PLURA vs TV LOGIC

First time I've heard of them. There's... so many broadcast monitor manufacturers now.

Skimming through their manual, the following would be worth inquiring about:
Random fixed color dots (“stuck pixels”) on the panel surface are a normal characteristic of LCD displays, and are not
a problem. The LCD display is built with very high precision technology. However, be aware that a few very small pixels
may be affected by each other or lighting.
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Are they saying that dead and stuck pixels aren't a problem?

Also I'm not sure what they mean by "# Complies with EBU-2330 TECH, SMPTE-C and ITU-R BT.709 Standards" as the monitor doesn't have a menu setting to switch between EBU, SMPTE C, and 709 primaries (?). It doesn't look like it.

I've no idea how it fares against TVLogic monitors (model#?) though.

2- The 24" model, according to their website:
# 400 cd High Brightness, 700:1 Contrast

400 cd (per m2?) is extremely bright (consumer bright). About 117fL, three times SMPTE RP 162. (Though the high brightness is not a huge issue IMO.)
700:1 contrast ratio is a little low by today's standards... you can get the JVC 24" for $3.3k-ish and it does 1000:1. So unless the Plura is a lower price point than that, I'd find it hard to get excited about these monitors. But then again, it's possible that they are good monitors. I suppose the onus is on them to prove it, especially when they have so many competitors. And most of them look the same... to me, there's not much of a visible difference between the JVC at $3.3k and Sony's ~$30k BVM-L, Barco's RHDM (assuming you turn the flicker off), Cinetal, TVLogic, eCinema (excluding the DPX), etc.
Right now, the most promising monitors to me would be the JVC 24" DT (cheapest reasonable monitor), eCinema FX24 ($4k, 10-bit; probably slightly better viewing angle than the JVC), larger monitors like the FX40 (40", $6k, 1200:1) because clients will see the larger size, and the eCinema DPX (real black).

3- What's the pricing like on the Plura monitors btw?

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I don't mean to be so negative about Plura by the way. And I haven't seen their monitors.
 
Mark, some things that catch me right off the bat is the contrast ratio, a bit better on TV Logic (at least on paper) and I don't see dual link HD-SDI option on Plura. Also, viewing angle can be deceiving. Does it hold it's color consistently as you get to the sides. TV Logic is pretty good in this regard, at least on the 24".
 
stevesherrick said:
Mark, some things that catch me right off the bat is the contrast ratio, a bit better on TV Logic (at least on paper) and I don't see dual link HD-SDI option on Plura. Also, viewing angle can be deceiving. Does it hold it's color consistently as you get to the sides. TV Logic is pretty good in this regard, at least on the 24".
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Just got a TV Logic and it's great. I just happen to see a Plura the other day - and it's pretty much the same price - a bit cheaper - and I was surprised at the gray scale. I don't take huge stock in the published specs of many of the monitors out there - I had never heard of them either - I was more curious if anyone had seen them side by side. For the price - TV Logic is very good IMO. Just curious about the Plura really.
 
Offhollywood said:
Just got a TV Logic and it's great.
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We have several units of LVM - 241WL and they are best value/quality for money in 24" size.

For critical Color grading they are not so good, the black is not black, and the shadows are little bit week.

You must buy ND glass for studio work, and a probe with software for calibration .
Calibrate to 80cd/m2 or 100cd/m2 with filter for 100% white to match SONY BVM CRT.

We had the oportunity to see TVLOGIC XVM-245W with 10 Bit panel, and LED Backlight.
It's much better for color grading, but You will have to wait until December I think.

But none of the existing LCD (except for Ecinema DPX) can't match the BVM-D24 or BVM-A24.

Cheers
 
orlando said:
You must buy ND glass for studio work, and a probe with software for calibration .
Calibrate to 80cd/m2 or 100cd/m2 with filter for 100% white to match SONY BVM CRT.
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That's what I use. Works pretty well.

We had the oportunity to see TVLOGIC XVM-245W with 10 Bit panel, and LED Backlight.
It's much better for color grading, but You will have to wait until December I think.
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Interesting. I'll have to check it out.

But none of the existing LCD (except for Ecinema DPX) can't match the BVM-D24 or BVM-A24.
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I still reference a CRT quite a bit.

Cheers[/QUOTE]
 
TVLOGIC software and EyeOne Diplay 2
It's 999 us$ for software and the probe but You really need it.
Especially if You have multiple units in the same studio, so You can match them between.
 
that's right. but the sw is very good.

Also, You can use 8000us$ Klein probe to calibrate :)
 
I used the Klein to calibrate mine. It seems like a very thorough calibration process.

I think I'm still going to hire somebody to come in and check the calibration though at some point. Someone with a bit more experience with this end of things.
 
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