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PL Cine Glass for Stills Photography?

Great kit pictures for Arri advertising but no any single sample shot!???

Supposed to be that he still has a problem about that the MP's lens back touches a mirror of the cam.
 
Douglas Underdahl said:
Uh, Pawel - who did that conversion for ya? Wink, wink?
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Howdy, I got in touch with a smart dude frquenting this forum and he did the conversion for me. :smash: :yikes: :thumbsup:

Sanjin, there is no problem with MP75. As explained, I am flat out and simply have no time to make and post a picture to do it justice. I've been shooting with Red One a lot lately. I can post some frames from Red One, MPs and Red 300mm that would do the justice to both the camera and the glass.
 
When you get some time it would be nice to see a comparison between the MP and the Canon 85L F1.2 MKII.
 
Pawel Achtel said:
Sanjin, there is no problem with MP75. As explained, I am flat out and simply have no time to make and post a picture to do it justice. I've been shooting with Red One a lot lately. I can post some frames from Red One, MPs and Red 300mm that would do the justice to both the camera and the glass.
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Hi Pawel,

OK as you said then I'm waiting :yikes:
 
FILMCOMAN said:
Can the Leica lens be converted for cinema (PL mount focus gears and scales?)
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Leica R may be able to be converted, ask Les Bosher. He has just put a PL mount on one of my Telephoto lenses its superb.
 
PatrickKrebs said:
You've seen the Izzy footage right?
I'm pretty sure any frame of your film will stand on its own as a "Still"
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Some of them do, some of them don't.

When you shoot motion picture you set relatively slow shutter of 1/48 to 1/60 . To do so, you put a lot of NDs in front of the lens on a bright sunny day. Each frame containing motion will have motion blur, which you do not want to have on a still. Stills you shoot with fast shutter speeds in general.

Also, framing for motion picture is often different, the composition is often larger (wide angle) as the subjects move from edge to edge. Also, usage of the frame is different. Still portrait shots are common, but using a frame of a motion picture to do this is not practical or possible.

Last, but not least, a still camera setup would be a lot smaller and lighter allowing you to make mostly hand held shots.

Having said that, I managed to get some reasonable frame grabs from Red One footage. :)
 
Pawel, rumors about the Canon 60D are increasing in frequency. I'm assuming it will be out relatively soon, with a new Digic V processor to cut the noise. Another candidate for chopping!!

I think 60D with mirror gutted then fitted with 14mm MP = Godliness.
 
Tom said:
Pawel, rumors about the Canon 60D are increasing in frequency. I'm assuming it will be out relatively soon, with a new Digic V processor to cut the noise. Another candidate for chopping!!

I think 60D with mirror gutted then fitted with 14mm MP = Godliness.
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That would be awesome, Tom. However, I still haven't worked out how to gut the mirror box. The mirror itself can be easily removed, but the box appears to be part of the body that needs to be machined out :smash: I may give it another go in a couple of weeks. I am bit flat out at the moment.
 
OK, finally here is a still picture taken with EOS 50D and a PL MasterPrime lens.
 
Would it be possible to convert a Canon 5D Mark II to accept the MP 14mm? Tearing out the mirror would be fine as long as it's possible. I don't even use these cameras for shooting regular stills - only timelapse, and only in LiveView. How much of the sensor would the 14mm cover? I guess if you're starting with 21MP, losing a percentage of that is not really a big deal!
 
Tom said:
Would it be possible to convert a Canon 5D Mark II to accept the MP 14mm? Tearing out the mirror would be fine as long as it's possible. I don't even use these cameras for shooting regular stills - only timelapse, and only in LiveView. How much of the sensor would the 14mm cover? I guess if you're starting with 21MP, losing a percentage of that is not really a big deal!
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I think it is possible, it is just a major job. I am tempted to rip more guts out from the 50D, but maybe not just yet. It is not a reversible modification. :smash: The body has to be machined out :out: If the 50D works, 5D II should be fine too.
 
Heh. I need to find a paying gig with a budget I can use to chop a 5D2. I couldn't bear to pay for one with my own money and butcher it, especially since I don't own a MP! The one thing I really want to know is how much of the FF35 sensor would be covered by the 14mm MP?

If it only covers a roughly APS-C sized sensor area, there is barely any gain over the Canon 24mm f/1.4 (aside from increased quality perhaps). Then again, I am quite happy with the performance of the EF 24L. At APS-C, the 14mm would be roughly 22mm, right? Pawel, if it is possible, could you tell me what the equivalent focal length would be of a 14mm MP on the 5D2? 20mm? 19mm?

Also, can anyone tell me what it costs to rent a 14mm MP in the LA area?
 
Tom, the image circle of the MP 14mm is 31.1mm. See my report here: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=346908&postcount=52

The focal length is, well the same, regardless of crop. The angle of view on full image circle will be approximately 100 degrees diagonal. It is a very wide lens. See the images taken with Red One and MP 14 attached.
 
So the FOV on a FF35mm sensor would be something like 17mm-18mm? I don't care if I lose a little bit of real estate on the sensor. That's incredibly wide for a 1.3 lens. You mentioned f/1.2 on that linked thread. Is that the 14mm's f/stop equivalent?

BTW, Pawel, I always appreciate you answering my noobish questions here.
 
Tom said:
So the FOV on a FF35mm sensor would be something like 17mm-18mm? I don't care if I lose a little bit of real estate on the sensor. That's incredibly wide for a 1.3 lens. You mentioned f/1.2 on that linked thread. Is that the 14mm's f/stop equivalent?

BTW, Pawel, I always appreciate you answering my noobish questions here.
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Yes, Tom it is very wide and very fast (T1.3, f/1.2) lens, but what impresses me most is that it also appears to be the sharpest of all MPs and substantially sharper and more contrasty than any still glass I have ever seen. It is sharper than MP 35mm and sharper than MP 75mm. It's performance fully open is simply hard to believe.

BTW, I enjoy your time lapses and they are the best I have seen. Nothing noobish about them.
 
17mm f/1.2 (100-degree FOV) is a dream spec for me. I might have a big job coming up in late summer that I would love to pitch this setup for--if I can talk the producers into it. 14mm MP on the 5D2. Booyakasha!
 
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