Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Log in
  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Pioneer manufactures 16-layer, 400GB optical disc

L

lib

Active member
Joined
Jun 27, 2008
Messages
33
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Sounds like a good possibility for archiving Red footage in the not too distant future:

"Pioneer's researchers have another 'world's first' on their hands as they have managed to manufacture a 12cm read-only optical disc with no less than 16 layers and a total capacity of 400 GB (gigabytes). Pioneer's breakthrough is that it was able to overcome potential problems with the signals obtained from the increased number of layers by utilizing a new disc structure that reduces the crosstalk from adjacent layers.

Coming with 25GB per layer, just like Blu-Ray discs, the new 16-layer media will probably be compatible with current players although a firmware update might be necessary. Pioneer has yet to give a time line as to when the new disc would become available."
 
Great- just what we need another media that makes our brand new Blu-Ray players obsolete. Note to the makers- if you are going to make a next-generation media that's still a few years off add a zero to your size. 400GB sounds like a lot today but really in another year it will seem like nothing. Now if you'd said a 4TB disc I'd be really jazzed.

Noah
 
Probably, maybe, might...
First of all, it will take about two years before this technology appears on the market. The cost pr disc will at first be prohibitive, at least many times the cost pr. gigabyte currently on hard drives. Also the disk will be difficult to find in stores, the drive itself will be expensive and particular to certain brands of disc, and will report multiple errors on burning with 1 out of 3 discs failed. And by the time things start to iron out on cost and stability, a new type of disc media at half the price and twice the capacity will flood the stores.
Same old story...
 
Discs are obsolete. USB flash will probably replace them in near future. Its small handy and you can plug it to almost every PCs and to other devices like TVs, car audio, etc. It dont need any special mechanical drives.
Say bye to disc :)
 
1) It's worked once in the lab. That's not a commercial product by a long way.

2) "read-only optical disc". This is not media you can write yourself.
 
Hawaj said:
Discs are obsolete. USB flash will probably replace them in near future. Its small handy and you can plug it to almost every PCs and to other devices like TVs, car audio, etc. It dont need any special mechanical drives.
Say bye to disc :)
Click to expand...

USB flash hates me, and I hate it right back!
 
There are gobs of modified designs that the BR companies are touting in press releases. TDK, Pioneer, etc, all have their own little versions. I don't think they will see the light of day until at least several years down the road since players are what everyone is buying and a 400GB disc is serious overkill with today's player tech and certainly for consumer storage. For a medium, 400GB is perfect for massive amounts of archived information, assuming the discs themselves are suitable for long-term storage. Perfect enough for RED footage anyway. Heh heh.
 
Sony and Panasonic only recently (like within the last two months) finally agreed on final specs for quad-layer BD media. More powerful laser diodes are needed along with players having more adjustment positions to their focusing lenses. But both companies are proposing dual laser pick-ups as a standard requirement for discs with 4+ layers to increase data rates and integrity. Good idea, methinks.

IMO, if any media has a chance to replace optical discs, it will be CFast. (look just like a CF card, but with a micro-SATA interface) Samsung and Micron are both claiming 128GB CFast cards with over 100MB/s write, 120MB/s read by the end of 2010.

Don't know about prices though, but there will be write-once versions intended for archival purposes that will supposedly be cheaper than the rewritable versions. IMO, that's just what RED needs. Shoot 128GB to a CF-sized card. The card is the permanent neg or archival master. No extra hard drives, tape systems, etc.. Just CFast readers to make duplicate cards onto more write-once media. Or shoot to rewritable media and offload desired clips to WORM cards.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top