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For those who are asking to put Nikon lenses on, thats just the stupidest thing I've heard, and if you don't know why it's stupid, then please don't waste your money on a camera, but instead, go to Amazon.com and pick up a book.

And for those who are asking for B mount or C mount lenses, stop asking for things you don't need. And trust me you don't need interchangeable lenses. The truth if your an indie filmmaker, you can't afford to rent or buy good pro glass.

Wake the F*7K up people, your asking the red team to add a feature, that your willing to shell out more money for, which you can't afford to take advantage of, only never to use it. Come on folks WAKE UP.
 
Your comment speaks towards a filmmaker, and I agree.

For a cinematographer, I disagree
 
Wow. Are you trolling for trouble? Heh. With a post like that you're sure to get some angry responses. However, I essentially agree with what you're saying. And if people are as "serious" about this stuff as they saying they are... well get a Red! Or rent one! What too expensive? Right... so stop asking for features on the Scarlet that will raise the price.
 
I disagree with your disagreement bluestar *LOL*

Seriously though, most professional cinematographers aren't gonna be working with the scarlet. Unless your a pro cinematographer working for an indie film, in which case, pro glass is still out of the questions cause it's just to expensive to have on a indie shoot.
 
I think you're wrong. Professionals will be using this camera. It's aimed for a variety of professionals, not just the rich. Glass can be rented, borrowed, etc.

Take this into consideration. I buy the Red One, I buy the prime set. Scarlet comes up. I want to buy it because of its size and mobility. With the Scarlet, the rates will definitely be lower than the Red One, but now why as a cinematographer, should I limit my craft to a fixed lens when I have so many lenses(not the primes)?

I seriously only think this lens issue is for the camera men, not the filmmakers.
 
Come one Tom, get real. From reading this form, there's idiots from both the Noobs and old timers camp. But I thought that guys with at least 1, 948 posts wouldn't be asking for feature like interchangeable lenses on a camera with this price point.

And by the way, if you read the forms, there's guys here with over 200 posts asking the red team to put Nikon Lenses on the scarlet. I guess having many posts doesn't make you the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
manymoosh said:
For those who are asking to put Nikon lenses on, thats just the stupidest thing I've heard, and if you don't know why it's stupid, then please don't waste your money on a camera, but instead, go to Amazon.com and pick up a book.

And for those who are asking for B mount or C mount lenses, stop asking for things you don't need. And trust me you don't need interchangeable lenses. The truth if your an indie filmmaker, you can't afford to rent or buy good pro glass.

Wake the F*7K up people, your asking the red team to add a feature, that your willing to shell out more money for, which you can't afford to take advantage of, only never to use it. Come on folks WAKE UP.
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I'm sorry but who are you to decide what people can and can't afford, are YOU their budget Advisor?

If RED ship the scarlet with a detachable 8x lens like the CANON XL series then Indies can keep the lens on because "they can't afford other lenses" and people who can afford other lenses can change the lenses.

Also, if indies can't afford 35mm glass, then why were the REDROCK M2, the LETUS Extreme, and the Brevis invented? are they pro-only accessories?

I'm sorry but your post is very ignorant, we're all entitled to our requests and we know what we can afford, so please don't go around telling us what we can and cannot buy
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I would like to see an audio option on the Scarlet as well.
 
I understand what he meant but I just don't think it came out properly. He is saying the masses tht will purchase the scarlet cam will be super indie film makers. If you want to be a big time DP then move up to the RED cam. Makes sense and I even think that is how RED is selling it. Now I can see schools like Full Sail buying 30 Scarlet cams for there film classes. I would love to have a HPX500 with a built in lens for 8k or something. RED you folks have done it again.
 
Bluestar,

Your right, if you have the Red One camera already, there's no denying that interchangable lenses make sense. You can use your existing lenses with scarlet. But lets look at who this camera is targeted for, it's not targeted for the pro guys, thats what Epic and Red are for. This camera is for the DVX crowd. Now how many guys do you know from that group that have friends that they can borrow pro glass from, or can afford to buy or even rent pro glass. Very few.The Red Team are not idiots. They priced the scarlet ($3000.00) for a targeted crowd, and again that crowd can't get near pro glass
 
Manning. I think the big question is whether Red is targeting the filmmaker or the DP.
 
Hey Ameer Alley,

I never claimed to be anyones finical adviser.

Do some research and you'll quickly discover that pro glass is out of the reach of most indie film makers. If you sign up for an account with Pro IMDB, you'll find (in they're independent film section) that the budget for most indie films is the cost of a set of good pro glass. In other words, 80% of indie films can't afford pro glass. And since this camera is targeted towards the indie crowd, adding feature that is never gonna get used, but only raise the cost, is ridiculous.
 
Hey Ameer,

I second that. A better fixed lens will do more good for the indie crowd then a interchangeable lens anyday.
 
To everyone: I think the big question is whether Red is targeting the filmmaker or the DP.

You guys keep saying the target is the DVX crowd, etc. Truth is, it's been a day and no one knows who the target is. If it is aimed at the prosumer level, then they're on the right path and I'm sure panny and sony are shaking in their boots as they know Jim is now capable of anything. I would think removing the fixed lens and creating a whole new line of lenses for scarlet would offer a larger advantage in the market and more profit than the low 3,000 they're aiming for. Just sayin'
 
Hey Bluestar,

True, its too early to know who the scarlet is target for. But from the facts we have so far, its a safe bet to say that scarlet is targeted towards the indie filmmaker. First the price point, secondly the fixed lens, thirdly the DP's already have Red and now Epic. Given these facts I would safely bet that scarlet is for the dvx indie crowd. And we already know that the dvx crowd could never afford pro glass. So asking for a feature like interchangeable lenses only gonna raise cost.
 
manymoosh said:
Hey Ameer,

I second that. A better fixed lens will do more good for the indie crowd then a interchangeable lens anyday.
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Guys, better than what? It sounds like you're already criticizing the glass quality.:waaa:

it was announced 15 hours ago. there's a prototype in a glass box. :biggrin:

Does someone have inside info that the glass they are using is not awesome?

I'm certain that whatever they are using is of an amazing quality.
 
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