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Hey guys! looking for some recommendations on what parts to go with on a PC I'm getting built, i'm coming from apple but dont really wanna buy into the new imac. Specs are below:

CPU - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X
GPU - Gigabyte AORUS X GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition
Motherboard - Gigabyte AORUS GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 MB
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LED 64GB (4x16GB)
Memory - Samsung 850 EVO 500gb SSD + WD Red 2tb HDD
Case - NZXT S340 Elite
PSU - Corsair 750W RM750x Gold
CPU Cooling - Corsair H115i CPU Cooler

Looking to spend around the $4000 mark, If you could let me know your thoughts/recommendations on what gear to go with that would be great. Editing with 5k epic footage, with total edit lengths being sub 10 minutes, would prefer not to use proxies, would like full res playback and I use premiere as my main editor!
Thanks in advance!
 
Sam Doddridge said:
Hey guys! looking for some recommendations on what parts to go with on a PC I'm getting built, i'm coming from apple but dont really wanna buy into the new imac. Specs are below:

CPU - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X
GPU - Gigabyte AORUS X GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition
Motherboard - Gigabyte AORUS GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 MB
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LED 64GB (4x16GB)
Memory - Samsung 850 EVO 500gb SSD + WD Red 2tb HDD
Case - NZXT S340 Elite
PSU - Corsair 750W RM750x Gold
CPU Cooling - Corsair H115i CPU Cooler

Looking to spend around the $4000 mark, If you could let me know your thoughts/recommendations on what gear to go with that would be great. Editing with 5k epic footage, with total edit lengths being sub 10 minutes, would prefer not to use proxies, would like full res playback and I use premiere as my main editor!
Thanks in advance!
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The threadripper won't fit in the intel motherboard. You might also have a look at davinci resolve 14 for editing, color and sound (only 299 usd) it is freaking fast.

Possible configuration with a lot of speed for the money in USD (newegg).

CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 1700x $ 360
GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming K5 (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard $ 160
GTX 1080 Ti - $ 800
Memory - G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14Q-64GTZ $720
This memory makes the PC 20% faster in PP (or other memory with DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL14-14-14-34).
SSD1 for windows and programs - SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III $ 90
SSD2 as scratch drive - SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2 512GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V6P512BW $ 300 (fast and durable)
HDD - 4 TB 7200 rpm (make sure you make back ups) $ 150 (better take 2 in raid 1, the MB supports it and its a lot saver). 2 TB is really small.
CPU cooling - Scythe mugen 5 $ 50 (very good silent air-cooler, 33 dBA at 10 cm so you won't hear it)
Case - NZXT S340 Elite $ 100
PSU - Corsair 750W RM750x Gold $ 120
Small material - $ 50

Makes $ 2900 USD or $ 3050 when you put in a second 4 TB HDD for raid 1 (data loss is a bitch).

The fast memory is really important for Ryzen and makes the total system 20% faster in Adobe PP (for $ 180 more=6,6%, you get 20% more performance).
Don't forget to have a look at the free version of Davinci Resolve, you might like it.

Misha
 
It al comes down to the budget 3000 USD ex. vat is around 4000 AUD incl. vat.

The 1900x won't bring you a lot of extra horse power and cost at least $450 more (advantage over the ryzen, more PCIe lanes 2x16 + 2x8(in a 16 slot) for more GPUs in the future and more M2 slots for NVMe drives, more memory bandwidth due to quad channel memory).

The 1920x on the other hand will bring an extra 4c/8t.

Newegg price in US$
MSI X399 motherboard is $350 ($ 190 more).
1920x is $800 ($ 440 more).
G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) $ 370 ($ 370 more). You need 4 GB per thread or 8 GB per core
AIO water cooler Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate $ 120 ($ 70 more)

For $ 1070 US more you get a 12c/24t machine with 4 GB-RAM per thread that handels 5k video with ease (totals $ 3050 + $ 1070 = $ 4120 US).

And again, AMD likes good and fast memory don't try to cut cost on that.
 
Misha Engel said:
The 1900x won't bring you a lot of extra horse power and cost at least $450 more (advantage over the ryzen, more PCIe lanes 2x16 + 2x8(in a 16 slot) for more GPUs in the future and more M2 slots for NVMe drives, more memory bandwidth due to quad channel memory).
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ah sweet, will probably end up on the ryzen 7 1800x by the sounds! also, another question, is there any performance difference running something like the AMD Vega for a gpu? or is the 1080 the best choice?
 
Sam Doddridge said:
ah sweet, will probably end up on the ryzen 7 1800x by the sounds! also, another question, is there any performance difference running something like the AMD Vega for a gpu? or is the 1080 the best choice?
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Vega's are not the best gaming cards but very good in calculating (Resolve, Render, PP, etc..) the problem at the moment is that they are also very good in etherium mining. With initial pricing of $ 399 for vega 56 and $ 499 for vega 64. The current selling prices are more like $ 600.. $ 700 and even more likely Out of Stock.

According to this site GERMAN https://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Kurztest/AMD-RX-Vega-56-unter-DaVinci-Resolve---erste-Messwerte.html Vega 56 looks pretty good.

When you don't need a 10 bits GPU for photoshop etc. GTX1080ti ($800) looks to be the pick best at the moment, when you do need 10 bits(like me) the AMD VEGA FE with 16 GB is hard to beat for $ 1000 (with resolve you will need a DecLink card anyway to be able to use 10 bit color).
 
Was looking into the vega frontier edition (16gb, air cooled), between that and a 1080TI, what would you opt for for premiere etc (I only game lightly, so I wouldn't have that as a deciding factor for my build)
 
Sam Doddridge said:
Was looking into the vega frontier edition (16gb, air cooled), between that and a 1080TI, what would you opt for for premiere etc (I only game lightly, so I wouldn't have that as a deciding factor for my build)
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Short version: when you want to use (now or in a later stage) a 10 bit monitor and/or UHD HDR TV AMD VEGA FE.

Long version: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-16gb,5128.html AMD VEGA FE

It has a gaming performance comparable with a GTX1080 (non TI).
 
What I'd do:

MB - any board that has a X299 chipset that will run dual x16 with a 44 lane CPU (e.g., MSI X299 RAIDER LGA 2066 Intel X299, if look at the spec it says - Support x16/x16/x8 mode with the 44-lane CPU)

CPU - Intel Core i9-7900X (44 lane CPU for the above, if you want to spend more you could get a 7920X, 7940X, etc., for more cores but lower linear speed but for the most part I would probably go with the lowest end 44 lane CPU with the highest linear speed which is the 7900X)

GPU - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (install two of these, 16 lanes each of course, e.g., MSI ARMOR GeForce GTX 1080 Ti)

RAM - install 4 (or 8) DDR4 2667 DIMMs... because X299 does 4 way interleave... probably 64GB of RAM... so you could do 4 x 16 or 8 x 32. Most X299 boards are pretty flexible about memory support and running at various speeds etc.

Storage - The Samsung M.2 is the fastest thing out there for now. I would put two of those in as many of these X299 boards have two M.2 slots in them.
 
I'm interested in building one of these systems, it'll be my first PC build.
It'll be a 99% resolve machine. ( I have an UltraStudio 4k )

I like the specs as long as everything will work together without too much trouble.

What can be done storage wize? meaning I have a bunch of thunderbolt raids now.
Can I use thunderbolt or is it really time to go to some sort of server storage???

at around $3k and can handle Red 6k or even 8k footage in resolve
I would be jumping with joy.

Misha do you have a proven parts spec?

Curtis
 
Curtis boggs said:
I'm interested in building one of these systems, it'll be my first PC build.
It'll be a 99% resolve machine. ( I have an UltraStudio 4k )

I like the specs as long as everything will work together without too much trouble.

What can be done storage wize? meaning I have a bunch of thunderbolt raids now.
Can I use thunderbolt or is it really time to go to some sort of server storage???

at around $3k and can handle Red 6k or even 8k footage in resolve
I would be jumping with joy.

Misha do you have a proven parts spec?

Curtis
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Yes I do, but that is a threadripper system for $10k (in an other thread).

Haven't build a Ryzen7 workstation yet, but the one mentioned earlier in this thread should work pretty much okay and it is only $3k.
We choose for threadripper because of the higher speed and the huge number of free to use PCIe lanes (60).

Gigabyte already announced their TB3 expansion card for threadripper so in your case it might be wise to wait a little (when you can).

For 6 and 8k I would go for a threadripper + 2GPU's (or EPYC7401P with 2,3 or 4 GPU's) when you use Resolve a lot (We do, whenever possible).
The most important part when building an AMD system is to pick fast memory (DDR4-3200 CL 14-14-14-34 when possible for threadripper and ryzen and ECC-DDR4-2666 for EPYC).

With Threadripper MB only ASUS has a real flaw (slow USB 3.1 gen 2).

All Ryzen motherboards are okay (minimum B350 or X370 when you want more options) just pick the one that fits your needs and budget.

Looking at your budget and thunderbolt, Intel might also have a nice solution that goes on sale at the 5th of october 2017 https://videocardz.com/73061/yet-another-core-i7-8700k-i5-8600k-review-posted-ahead-of-launch.
 
I definitely recommending adding another SSD as a dedicated boot drive.

My current setup has one SSD (boot drive) with nothing but operating system and program files. I have another SSD as a project drive (this hold files ONLY for current projects I am working on for faster read/write speeds, otherwise it stays blank). Then I have several HDDs for mass storage drives (all 7200 rpm)
 
slightly diffrent excution, same concept, i have three machines set up similarly;

dual / mirrored SSD boot drives
dual / mirrored spinning data/backup drives
SAS local disk array, 16Tb for working media & caches

and a NAS for camera orignals, 64Tb spinning drives
 
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