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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Panavision videos...

Joofa said:
Jason, an end user does not have a visibility to where/who exactly is making these products. We do know that Red has some inherent R&D ability (Graeme Nattress/Deanan/Stuart English are there), but what exactly is indigenous is not known at least to me. I do not expect in todays world for a company to make/install all its parts (does Dell make that processor in its computers?). However, one has some idea about other companies that what they are up to.

Red's website is just a front end and things stop there. I was making a point about that if Red's R&D is something they are interested in *growing* (and is not all OEM) then they should provide some visibility to prospective people out there and means for that people to apply to be a part of that group.

You go to any well-established company's website and you see a career section. Red should not miss out on that.
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Everytime Canon updates their cameras with technology improvements, that tells me they have R&D. I've never been to their website but all my cameras and lenses are Canon. I don't need to. A website isn't an entire company. So things don't just stop there.

A career section is helpful to people seeking work. I hardly think it lends any more validation or credibility to a company. I could easily add a career section to my website and an R&D page. But it would be a false front end to a false company. I wouldn't fool anyone... except my mom who would get excited that I'm actually doing something with my life (just kidding!)

A website is one of the many front ends a company can have. I would argue that RedUser.net is a bigger and more important "front end" then Red.com.

Anyway, I don't mean to get into a silly debate. I think I see your point and agree that you want Red to have as big a presence as possible and shout to the world who they are and how great they are. I agree.

It's all good Joffa. :)
 
I sat down with my pencil and graphing paper but I couldn't understand a thing. I ended up wondering if I could just pass the test by looking at the image and saying.. that is good... real good.
 
Graeme needs to be commended for his thoughtful explanations of sensor physics in this thread and many others. I now feel that I have a rough understanding of the bayer sensor in my RED and I often hear myself quoting verbatim Graeme's posts when pitching to my clients.

Now, can you get back to work on build 16 please? ;)
 
(Pardon the slight off-topic)

So, practically a 4:4:4 DeBayer [full luma + chroma rez.] from the Scarlet 3K sensor would be closer to ~1440x1080 than to 2K?

But, at 2K, we get 100 % luma resolution and ~54 % chroma res.
 
Yes and no. Yes, in terms of measured chroma resolution, and no in that it will look better than if that's what you started with on an alternative 3 chip solution because there will be better control of any aliasing.

Graeme
 
DorkmanScott said:
Yeah, but the thing is it's a numbers game.

Whatever the sensor "actually" is, it's certainly "effectively" 4:4:4, as anyone who has pulled a competently-lit greenscreen key from RED footage knows.
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Hi,

For a greenscreen OK, not so sure it's effectively 4:4:4 with bluescreen, FWIW I prefer bluescreen over greenscreen, I shoot both but always prefer blue.

Stephen
 
Stephen Williams said:
Hi,

For a greenscreen OK, not so sure it's effectively 4:4:4 with bluescreen, FWIW I prefer bluescreen over greenscreen, I shoot both but always prefer blue.

Stephen
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I think outdoor shooting in good daylight goes well with blue screen as the natural blue content in the daylight casts a tone on skin that is acceptable given the background and even if the key is not perfect, it is not noticeable.
 
ibloom said:
I was so inspired by Part6 I made my own chart.

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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's fuckin duck.
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High five, Ian.
 
Hi,

Just did exactly that!

Stephen

Joofa said:
I think outdoor shooting in good daylight goes well with blue screen as the natural blue content in the daylight casts a tone on skin that is acceptable given the background and even if the key is not perfect, it is not noticeable.
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chuck colburn said:
Stephen, is that one of your Ultra Cams?
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Hi Chuck,

Indeed it is an UltraCam one of 15 built. I use them about twice a year when there is no budget left, this time after shooting with the Photosonics!

Stephen
 
Photosonics, Yummy, Lots and lots of claws and pins moving along very rapidly. lol Is that an E series you got there?
 
chuck colburn said:
Photosonics, Yummy, Lots and lots of claws and pins moving along very rapidly. lol Is that an E series you got there?
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Hi Chuck,

4ER modified by Cine Magic (4ER+) capable of 425 fps, very loud!

Stephen
 
This is sounding like a war...

This is sounding like a war...

I don´t like wars, so let´s beat them with good movies and with an intelligent use of the camera.
 
I think these people know a little bit about the topic of image capture & MTFs. To discount & "blow off" as "scary" the collective knowledge of these gentlemen is foolish. I think the marketing propaganda is flowing both ways. Even the RED cannot escape the laws of physics & MTFs.
 
MrMuccy, you're right that John and Larry know a lot about making images. However, we know how and why Bayer pattern sensors work, which is not quite how they are described in the video.....
 
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