Other Camera Forum disappears...

[Ryan S]

Bottom line is that Jim does not want us posting about "other cameras" here anymore. He made that crystal clear last night. Since this is his house, we should respect that.

I'm hoping that just means no threads solely devoted to other cameras. When I read your post, I first thought no more side-by-side comparisons, which would really suck.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

Michael Bravin was one of the earliest buyers of a Red camera. I believe his original reservation number was 51.

Two girlfriends sounds like trouble, no? :biggrin: I would not expect Michael....

...anyway, who is going to do side-by-side comparison between Alexa and M-X now? This is the question!

 

[Tom Lowe]

heheh.... no more jokes at Michael Bravin's expense.... :banned:

Maybe Jim can make an exception just in this one case with Bravin, Arri, Mitch, etc. :smilielol5:

 

[Pawel Achtel]

time to choose :devil:

 

[Jannard]

Maybe Jim can make an exception just in this one case with Bravin, Arri, Mitch, etc. :smilielol5:

We are keen to do a side by side test of the new Arri cameras and EPIC (or even a RED ONE with Mysterium-X sensor). We'll find a place to put the results here on reduser.

Maybe we can even get the two companies together for a controlled test? Bravin?

Jim

 

[Cristina S]

So, no "other cameras" forum data? Not even accessible for reading?

Very well, close it. The information posted might at least be available. There was some valuable stuff posted there. A few of us don't care about brand policies, whatever. For that data's sake, that is all. In the name of filmmaking. Thank you.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

Maybe we can even get the two companies together for a controlled test? Bravin?

Jim

Sounds like a great idea.

Nah, Mike will never agree to that...:001_tt2:

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sooner or later some independent third parties will do this test for sure.

Btw, right now I heard that prices for Arri new cameras code named Alexa:

A-EV Euro 50.000 / U$ 70.000
A-EV Plus Euro 70.000 / U$ 100.000
A-OV Plus Euro 130.000 / U$ 185.000

 

[Rob Ruffo]

Sooner or later some independent third parties will do this test for sure.

Btw, right now I heard that prices for Arri new cameras code named Alexa:

A-EV Euro 50.000 / U$ 70.000
A-EV Plus Euro 70.000 / U$ 100.000
A-OV Plus Euro 130.000 / U$ 185.000

Aside from perfromance, we must consider that these cams are like semi-portable (and I use the word semi with great generosity) science projects. Weight and tech issues are serious issues on a set, and there a recently updated Red wins hands down.

 

[Alexander Ibrahim]

Is there a link to Jim's post talking about his reasoning? Did that disappear with the forums/sections that were removed?

I kind of thought that the REDUser conversation about the vDSLR's was better than what you find elsewhere, so I'll miss it.

I completely agree though its RED's backyard, and I'm happy to play by their rules.

 

[Van Din]

Is there a link to Jim's post talking about his reasoning? Did that disappear with the forums/sections that were removed?

Yes, gone with all the threads.

I kind of thought that the REDUser conversation about the vDSLR's was better than what you find elsewhere, so I'll miss it.

Me too.

 

[J Davis]

There is WAAAAY more info on vDSLR's covering countless threads in DVXuser. Much more than there ever was here, 7D section has over a thousand threads – and on all the same topics.
Literally there was nothing new in these deleted threads. No great loss.

Roberto already linked there. Back in post 10

 

[Liam Hall]

I guess if people are pissed at the Other Cameras board being consigned to the RedUser history folder then they could always start their own forum or their own camera company or both...

 

[Jeff Coatney]

Good riddance. It was becoming ridiculous. Footage from a Red One and a Canon 5D can seamlessly intercut? What a waste of bandwidth.

 

[MichaelHalsell]

Do we know of any other manufacturer's website or forum that allow readers to post alternative product solutions? RED had been gracious enough to allow that nonsense for a brief moment, but is totally correct and within their right to remove those threads.

For those truly saddened, suffering withdrawal and wants to resuscitate the dead threads, the following domain is available.

sadtoseeyougo.com

 

[Bérenger Brillante]

After reading the Arri / Red thread, I can only understand Jim deleting this section. I, as a customer, was pissed off... so JJ as the maker... ouch.

 

[Rick Presas]

Shame that forum got closed.

Do we know of any other manufacturer's website or forum that allow readers to post alternative product solutions? RED had been gracious enough to allow that nonsense for a brief moment, but is totally correct and within their right to remove those threads.

see, to me the coolest thing about reading all those 7D threads was seeing how the 7D was so obviously NOT a alternate product solution. It was reassuring to know that the $10,000odd i plan on spending on a 2/3" scarlet is be WELL WORTH IT and I wasn't better off putting together an HDSLR rig for the sake of a 35mm sensor.

You're right though, this is REDs forum and they may do as they like.

 

[Michael Schmitt]

I don't come to this forum to read about other cameras. I come here to read about the Red and Scarlet.

 

[Rick Presas]

I don't come to this forum to read about other cameras. I come here to read about the Red and Scarlet.

very true. but with no footage and only limited info on as-yet-nonexistent scarlet and epic there's really only so much you can read.

but the way i see it, we can still use off-topic to pass the time before we all have our patience and fidelity to the brand rewarded to us in the form of DSMC :beer: :beer: :beer:

 

[Meryem Ersoz]

a lot of us aren't passing the time, we're shooting our RED cams and testing out all the new goodies and building our businesses.

dvxuser, dvinfo, creative cow, 2-pop, CML - all good places to talk about other cameras...there is no lack of intelligent, available discussion about these cameras.

given that, i don't really understand what is lost by shutting down that forum. it all seemed a little bit out of place, anyway.

i would like to see canon build out a similar community, with interactive conversations with their CEO and camera development teams.

the people who are complaining about the end of this forum are complaining to the wrong people - why aren't you spending the same energy encouraging the other camera manufacturers jumping on board this clearly successful model and building out these communities?

you should be goading the big camera companies to follow this lead, instead of complaining about why RED isn't supporting the building of communities around competitors' cams...

now that would be really cool.