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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

"Only sony can do" a 4K player

Let's arrange a group buy for the Skyworth !
I'm sure we could get an order for 10 or 20 in the works , in no time.

Even if the contrast ratio is a bit low, or the viewing angle is narrow, I would use it as a killer computer monitor.
Who is in?
Which model is the 'sweet spot' to get ?

ps: gotta have features: Built-in ping-pong and yoga fitness function !!! I'M IN !!!!
 
Count me in on a 50" panel. (It's a no-brainer.)

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Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
Steve Sherrick said:
This is probably a good thing all around. RED has made huge progress in the professional world but at a consumer level a lot of people would be more familiar with the Sony brand and it might actually help RED in that space. I do believe you need more than one company involved if 4K is to gain momentum in the near future.
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I agree. 4K just got real, and everyone's 4K cameras just became more valuable.
 
Les Dittert said:
Let's arrange a group buy for the Skyworth !
I'm sure we could get an order for 10 or 20 in the works , in no time.

Even if the contrast ratio is a bit low, or the viewing angle is narrow, I would use it as a killer computer monitor.
Who is in?
Which model is the 'sweet spot' to get ?

ps: gotta have features: Built-in ping-pong and yoga fitness function !!! I'M IN !!!!
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Super Brilliant idea
I am in (no joke), Please get serious and make it (GROUP BUY) happen before christmas.
 
Kwan Khan said:
Super Brilliant idea
I am in (no joke), Please get serious and make it (GROUP BUY) happen before christmas.
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I'm in. I will take a 50" for sure.

I may also take the 84" (seriously), but only if there's a satisfaction guarantee, as I haven't seen it myself. And we'd have to get the price down a bit. If it can get a reduction similar to the street price on the 50", I'm seriously interested! I'd be willing to give it a shot in the $12~13K range, maybe a bit more, as it would save $6K over buying the LG here in the USA. MSRP on that set is $19,995, but I can get it for $18.5K, maybe a touch less if I pull a few favors.

I'd help set it up myself, but I'm about to get real busy this week and won't have extra time until after the holidays... So, if anyone is willing before then, I'm sure several of us would jump in.
 
Best to wait. I've seen the 84-inch Sony and it's nice, but there will be cheaper 4K TVs from Sony next year, though I suspect it will be another year and a half before they replace the 84 with an improved HDMI 2.0 model.
 
Steve Sherrick said:
This is probably a good thing all around. RED has made huge progress in the professional world but at a consumer level a lot of people would be more familiar with the Sony brand and it might actually help RED in that space. I do believe you need more than one company involved if 4K is to gain momentum in the near future.
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I agree. And it's interesting that even Sony is admitting that a mass-market 4K optical disc is not in the cards yet. Even more interesting about the lack of data delivery. One assumes that if 4K needs at least four times the bandwidth of HD, then we'll need 200GB for a 4K movie. I'm skeptical that compression schemes like RedRay are going to work in all cases, especially in real-time compression, but I look forward to seeing it in action and see how well it works.

Still, I'm not expecting RedRay to wind up selling for $99 at Costco... which is about the going price for low-end Blu-ray HD players these days.
 
here is Skyworth USA 's contact

http://www.skyworth.com.hk/usa/contact.html
http://iskyworth.com/main.htm

Skyworth Group is the leader in the development and manufacturing of electronic consumer products, display technology related products, audio and visual and information technology products for the consumer and professional markets with its best known “Skyworth” brand in China. In the overseas market, Skyworth is the pioneer offering quality in OEM and ODM services for exporting to international markets. Operations include worldwide research and development group; creative design, engineering and manufacturing team; strong sales, marketing and distribution network and quality customer services.

Address:SKYWORTH ELECTRONICS INC.1312 John Reed Court, City of Industry,CA91745 USA

Phone:626-336-3698
Fax:626-336-3238
 
Marc Wielage said:
I agree. And it's interesting that even Sony is admitting that a mass-market 4K optical disc is not in the cards yet. Even more interesting about the lack of data delivery. One assumes that if 4K needs at least four times the bandwidth of HD, then we'll need 200GB for a 4K movie. I'm skeptical that compression schemes like RedRay are going to work in all cases, especially in real-time compression, but I look forward to seeing it in action and see how well it works.
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The amount of storage or bandwidth is also dependent on the codec used. Much higher compression ratios can be achieved while preserving even better quality than what is available now on BluRay or other formats (see RedRay). The caveat is the is that the compression algorithms are far more demanding in terms of their complexity and the amount of CPU power needed to decode them. Of course, that CPU power thing tends to solve itself over time and commonly available processors are now several times more powerful than they were at the introduction of BluRay nearly 7 years ago.

Still, I'm not expecting RedRay to wind up selling for $99 at Costco... which is about the going price for low-end Blu-ray HD players these days.
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Time will tell, it will indeed get cheaper. Took 6 years for BluRay to go from $1K down to about $80 on a WalMart shelf. The pieces are all falling into place for a new paradigm shift and a new standard, but like other formats of the past, it's going to take several years for mass adoption. And by then, there could be newer emerging technology from RED and others.


As for Skyworth... A friend of mine pointed out that Skyworth HDTVs, or at least a few small models, are available at Costco and a few internet retailers. I emailed their USA contact to see what they say about the availability of the 4K units...
 
Matt: I'm in for 50". (Maybe Santa will bring me a Kona3G after all.)

___________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
Brandon J.F. said:
84" $16,052.58
65" $6,420.87
50" $1,765.59

50" 4k TV for less than $2k???
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Hisense has 55" 4K for $2K, and you can also get a big bonus package like a microwave and a oven and ...

Chinese LED TV are cheaper and good, even on image quality... LG is the worst.
 
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