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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Onfilm Exclusive CTL Now Online

Thanks for posting - awesome and fascinating article. Thanks to Onfilm too for putting it online.

Cheers

Cam
 
Wow, great article, thanks for posting the link. Really enjoyed reading it.
 
So, how did Spielberg end up seeing CTL?

And yes, thanks for the article.
 
I found it hillarious that there was an ad for Panavision Genesis and the Sony HD just below the article. Even funnier was Sony's tagline, "Shoot HD at SD prices"

*burps*
 
Wow what a great read. I can't imagine keeping my sanity through such an intense timeline and dealing with so many unknowns. It is huge credit to the RED team and PJ's team that the short looks as good as it does.

Definitely makes me feel like a wuss hehe...
 
Please bear in mind that the feature of this issue was Digital Filmmaking and most advertisers probably didn't realise the extent of the Red article ( we certainly didn't!) and as an advertiser we don't get a say on where our ad is placed, that's left to the magazine.

Both Sony and Panasonic are very supportive of the local industry and we are lucky to have direct access to them.

Panasonic recently sponsored the NZ 48hr giving away 6 Dvx's and a HVX200 with 16GB cards to the overall cinematography winner. They also brought Barry Green down for free seminars on p2 workflow and there was no hard sell tagged on to it.

Keep in mind there are people behind the brands and most of us do have a positive working relationship with them.

Hope to get Zane (the author) onboard as part of A.R.T -Auckland Red Testing (like that one Gibby?:wink:) If we don't lose him to the creative brain drain.
 
In the article it says that in 2006 "release dates had been delayed, and delayed again" and "as each deadline was missed, the number of naysayers increased."
Except for the engineering delay we encountered after NAB 07 I don't recall deadlines to be missed or release dates to be delayed. In fact I remember Jim hitting the target at producing a working prototype before the end of the year.
Or is my memory playing tricks on me?
 
Thanks for a great read.

Very interesting, considering the comments coming from the SMPTE screening in Sydney regarding highlight clipping, what was said about more organic highlights with the re-grade in LOG colour space. Be very interested to see how all that pays out with the new grade.

I can also see just how much more the post path can be streamlined with a little time in the real world and support for FCP renders etc coming online. Once guys like Blackmagic and AJA come on board with Redcode support (and of course, Nattress grading support) a hell of a lot of that fooling around could be dispensed with.
 
Floris Liesker said:
In the article it says that in 2006 "release dates had been delayed, and delayed again" and "as each deadline was missed, the number of naysayers increased."
Except for the engineering delay we encountered after NAB 07 I don't recall deadlines to be missed or release dates to be delayed. In fact I remember Jim hitting the target at producing a working prototype before the end of the year.
Or is my memory playing tricks on me?
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Back at NAB '06, the "artificial target" (if one can call it that) was "by the end of the year." Then it was "early 2007," and now there is a new (tentative) schedule of shipping at the end of August for the first production units. I think the project has taken longer than expected (especially the "last 5%"), and no one can forsee these kinds of things - especially an upstart company making their very first camera! I would say that they've done a remarkable job considering the circumstances. That being said, yes, there have been some delays.

I think the best thing about RED (and Jim, specifically), is that they have been willing to give us updates on a regular basis - including photos, frame stills, accessory renders - through just about every phase of the development, which I have never seen any of the "big companies" do. The most we got before the launch of the HVX from Panasonic was a quick glimpse of a mockup body behind a wall of plastic - and even they had delays. So one should give the RED team some due credit, even if the ship dates have slipped a few times.
 
That's not entirely true. Panasonic promised to give us footage from a greenscreen/car shoot.... although that never really happened.

Anyway--An excellent write up. Very interesting and insightful. Hats off to OnFilm and Zane Holmes
 
im.thatoneguy said:
That's not entirely true. Panasonic promised to give us footage from a greenscreen/car shoot.... although that never really happened.
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Well that was essentially my point - regardless of what they did or did not tell us, the fact was that we didn't get any of the kinds of footage, updates, or development feedback about the camera like RED has been so amazing about. It should go to mention that Jan (from Panasonic) was very good about giving one-to-one contact on the forums and answering the myriad of questions that were thrown at her; it's just that from a development process, RED is listening and adjusting more than any other company in this business I've seen. Perhaps I'm wrong, but the impression that I get is that getting the camera done right is truly their utmost priority - whereas with most other companies it's all about the bottom line.
 
Rocketeer said:
Hope to get Zane (the author) onboard as part of A.R.T -Auckland Red Testing (like that one Gibby?:wink:)
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Go for it...imitation is an advanced form of flattery! :wink:

It's inevitable that everyone will want to test out their RED One cameras when they get them. For #8, LART will be just the beginning - afterwards I'll be heading into some intense real-world shooting on various projects. Lookin' forward to it! :gun:
 
RED is not as huge as Panasonic or SONY. They have more freedom
on all fronts and I hope it stays that way. People are wondering about
support from a smaller company. I would say that owning SONY and
Panasonic cameras in the past - that support was a network
of other 3rd party vendors who could give a crap. As a single
camera owner operator we are left to our own network we form.
I had to get a DVX100 repaired and the local service center was horrible.
The repair was shoddy and complaints to Panasonic never got anywhere.
I would hope that if a RED camera did develop a problem that you
could actually call them up for a solution.
 
Red Guy said:
RED is not as huge as Panasonic or SONY. They have more freedom
on all fronts and I hope it stays that way. People are wondering about
support from a smaller company. I would say that owning SONY and
Panasonic cameras in the past - that support was a network
of other 3rd party vendors who could give a crap. As a single
camera owner operator we are left to our own network we form.
I had to get a DVX100 repaired and the local service center was horrible.
The repair was shoddy and complaints to Panasonic never got anywhere.
I would hope that if a RED camera did develop a problem that you
could actually call them up for a solution.
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There is no one Founder who addicted to love his product and his customers, and do you find them at Sony or Panasonic, JVC or Thomson ? They all hired and do not have the passions like RED teams.

RED service is his service from his heart to heart soul to soul because Jim is the RED customer as well.

Stewart
 
REDHKSC said:
They all hired and do not have the passions like RED teams.

RED service is his service from his heart to heart soul to soul because Jim is the RED customer as well.

Stewart
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??? This sounds like an odd statement to make. Language barriers or not... but whatev.
 
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