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On Camera Mic for sync track?

Christopher Barrett

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Hey People,

I'm going to be doing some dual system sound and would like to capture a track on camera (solely for syncing up the better track). Opinions on ideal solution? On camera Mic? On board receiver with transmitter connected to mixer's line out?

If on camera Mic, what is the most efficient cable setup? Maybe this guy?

Thanks!

CB
 
Not proud of it, but I have been known to gaff tape a shotgun to the camera when recording a synch trac on the camera. Quality is not really the issue, so anything that gets sound works.

That said, another cheap solution is a set of something like e100s to wirelessly transmit a recording as well, or just run a snake from the sound guy if you dont mind being tethered. That said, I always like some kind of on camera mic as well if I have a free channel when recording dual system sound, just as a back up if the wireless dies, and a slate is always a good idea.

Also, look into pluraleyes for synching dual system sound... it has become my best friend. It will synch up your scratch audio with your dual system recording in seconds, and the quality of the scratch audio can be pretty shitty too and it will usually work with it...
 
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That's the right cable.

For steadicam work I've successfully run an Oktava MK-012 mounted on a K-Tek mount designed for the CS1. The through hole on the mount is much larger than the standard 1/4-20 hardware so a long bolt is used to mount the assembly to the top handle (finger tight). I also have wireclips that I use to route the cable from the channel 3 socket tight against the body to the Mic. Makes adjusting the steadicam a bit easier if the wires are not flopping around. Using channel three makes a 48v goofup less likely when moving audio equipment around.

Bob
 
I personally think you're better off getting a wireless transmission from the sound mixer as a reference track. Either an on-camera mike or a wireless track will work fine with Plural Eyes, but sometimes, the on-camera mike will be too far away from the actors to be of much practical use.
 
Wireless from the mixer definitely the best idea. For one thing, a camera mic is likely to pick up a lot of reflection, which can make you second guess your sync decision.

If you have timecode for both this isn't such a big deal, but at the same time kind of contradicts the idea of having a sync track anyway.

I shoot up to seven Reds at a time and in the end use both direct and camera mic for syncing, and the truth is both will work fine, but direct is definitely the best way to go.
 
We just mount a $300 Rode shotgun mic to our RED using a Schoeps mount and it works perfectly well for our purposes. Unless you are doing something very strange, you are seldom going to be far enough away to have to worry about time delay issues. And if you ARE that far away, you could just as well throw in any dialog and not have to worry about it!

Stephen
 
Well, Peter, sarcasm aside, I would have loved it if there was a way to mount a shotgun inside the top mount. It would not only reduce weight, but it would make the camera much less prone to damage, as well, especially when using devices like the Easy Rig.

Too bad, really.

Stephen
 
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