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O'connor 1030HDS (Studio)

Adam Jeal

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Does anyone know if the 1030 HDS (studio) head is suitable for a fully loaded Red One (body,lens,cage/rails,EVF,monitor,battery,red drive,arri mb-20 mattebox & ff5 follow focus).

According to the O'connor catalogue, the 1030 HDS will accept a load of 40lbs as opposed to 30lbs on the 1030 HD

I love the 2060 - but I doubt that I can afford it - especially if I go with the Arri MB & FF
 
IMO the 1030HDS should easily handle the setup you described. I'll be using the 1030HD for my average mobile EFP setup loads of around 22 pounds.

I'll rent a 2060 when I have the need for heavier cine-style loads.
 
Looks to me like the 1030HDS will handle it. But with the 1030HDS, you gain extra weight bearing capacity while sacrificing the tilt range of the head. So there is a significant compromise there that may affect you.
 
I've read that the RED team say use the 2060 as the 1030 will not handle it.

Obviously I'd love to save the cash and get the 1030 but if its not up to the job then its money not well spent :-)
 
roryhinds said:
I've read that the RED team say use the 2060 as the 1030 will not handle it.

Obviously I'd love to save the cash and get the 1030 but if its not up to the job then its money not well spent :-)
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That's because the RED Team was loading up RED One in a heavier cine style accessory setup. They used 2060's at their NAB booth for exactly that - heavier setups. Two weeks before NAB, when I visited RED headquarters to research and shoot DSLR stills for my 4/16 NAB article in Studio Daily, Jarred was using a 1030HD for mobile shots around the facility, but the camera setup was probably around 18 pounds for that.

If you do a lot of mobile EFP or lighter weight cine style setups with RED One, with loads up to a max of around 24 pounds, IMO the 1030 or 1030HD will be excellent. If you do a lot of heavier cine-style setups with RED One, then IMO the 1060 could potentially be the ticket.

If you do an equal split of those weights/genres, then you will probably need to own two tripods, with each used when needed.
 
roryhinds said:
I've read that the RED team say use the 2060 as the 1030 will not handle it.

Obviously I'd love to save the cash and get the 1030 but if its not up to the job then its money not well spent :-)
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Hi Rory,

I'm thinking the same thing. If you look at the picture I posted above, this is the kind of rig that i'll be using.

Check out this thread; http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2137 Mike has contacted Production Gear in Elstree (O'connor Dealer) and was told that he would be given a 20% discount if he purchases 5 O'connor heads. I think it'll be well worth a group of us joining together for a bulk purchase.
 
Hi Adam

That sounds great. I'll be up for join in on the 5.

What sort of price can Production Gear do on the 2060? Sometime its still works out cheaper buying from the US :-)

Regards
Rory
 
I think they are pretty good. I was quoted £2,950.00 for a 1030 HDS. The US List Price is $6,140.00. I'm waiting for a quote on the 2060.

The only difficultly I can see with the bulk purchase thing is the difference in our respective reservation places! - I am looking to get red #736 & 737 in September if the schedule remains the same. I hope we can all work something out between ourselves!
 
The US list price on the 2060 is $10,725.00. At todays conversion rate according to xe.com this works out at £5,363.66. Minus 20% = £4,469.72 + VAT = £5,251.92.

Ouch:pinch: but probably worth it in the long run!
 
Adam whats that price for?

BH sell the 2060 head for $ 7,428.95 (£3910) or you can get the ultimate package for $ 9,099.95 (£4790).

I guess we need to hear from Mike on what price Production Gear are quoting.

Regards
Rory
 
On the 1030 BH can do it for $ 3,972.50 (£2090) or $ 5,099.95 (£2684) for the package.

Yeah timing is key here. I'm set to receive RED#68 hopefully soon, just waiting to hear from Jim about the delay.

I'd need a tripod when I get the camera.

Regards
Rory
 
Hi Rory,

The $10,725.00 is the O'connor US list price on the 'package' that B&H have. I'm waiting on a quote from production gear on a 2060 - i'm expecting it to be a bit under the US list price just like the quote they gave me for the 1030HDS.

I got a bit confused at your mention of a 'package'. It seems that B&H are selling the heads without the following;Large Euro Platform, 150mm Base,
150mm Tie-Down & 18mm Pan Arm.

I just put down the US List price = 20% + 17.5% VAT to give you an idea of the cost. When Production Gear quote me on the 2060 i'll let you know the damage.

By the time you pay shipping and duty I doubt that there'll be be much difference between the two, unless a group of us go for the 20% deal.

Regards,

Adam
 
I'd like to go for the 1030, but from what I have read it will not do the job unless the RED is stripped down.

Does anyone know the weight of the RED at NAB?
 
roryhinds said:
I'd like to go for the 1030, but from what I have read it will not do the job unless the RED is stripped down.

Does anyone know the weight of the RED at NAB?
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Hmmm.. then you didn't read my posts #2 & 7 on page 1 of this thread...

I'd guess the cine-style setups at RED's NAB booth to have been 26 pounds, including camera body, RED 18-50, matte box, follow focus, RED Rails, handles, EVF, LCD, battery, and RED Drive. That's borderline good performance setup weight for a 1030 or 1030HD - thus the 2060 was used.

If you usually do lighter cine-style setups and/or mobile EFP setups. the 1030 or 1030HD should be fine. If you do heavier setups than that, the 2060 would suit you better.
 
Gibby said:
I'd guess the cine-style setups at RED's NAB booth to have been 26 pounds, including camera body, RED 18-50, matte box, follow focus, RED Rails, handles, EVF, LCD, battery, and RED Drive. That's borderline good performance setup weight for a 1030 or 1030HD - thus the 2060 was used.

If you usually do lighter cine-style setups and/or mobile EFP setups. the 1030 or 1030HD should be fine. If you do heavier setups than that, the 2060 would suit you better.
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Hi Gibby,

I'm with Rory on wanting to go the 1030 route due to cost. If your correct about the weight being around 26 pounds for the above, then the 1030HDS (which has a capacity of 40lbs) should be ok?. I'm just wondering if it would also be ok for the above set-up and the primes (300mm and the set)?

I'd hate to spend that kind of money, only to have the 1030HDS be of limited use.
 
The other thing is that Indie-dolly do a heavy duty tripod for $599 that has a 100mm bowl and a weight capacity of 190lbs and I figured that this would be a great pairing with the 1030HDS. The o'connor 25L's are £1,079.00 in the UK.
 
Adam,

My normal setup loads for the mobile EFP and light-moderate cine style setups for RED One will range form 15 to 25 pounds, almost rarely above that. I'll be buying an O'Connor 1030HD for that use.

What I'll probably do is get two sets of sticks for the head (both used, by the way). One set of sticks with be a 1-stage or maybe 2-stage alloy pair with a mid-level spreader, and the second will be a pair of lightweight carbon, no-spreader design (like Miller Solo) for real mobile hike-in work.

When I need a 2060 or other beefy head for heavier work, I'll rent it for those particualr projects.

You mentioned a 300mm prime. I'm getting the RED 300mm prime for some of my nature and sports shooting. Having inspected it closely at NAB, I'd say it will weigh around 5 pounds - not a heavy lens at all.
 
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